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AuthorTopic: Welcome all members!
Veronica
08-16-2001
05:23 PM
Hi everybody!

I originally started this thread so that people who had known each other on a different board (Voy) could reconnect. Now we are getting members from other boards and independents, COME ON AND JOIN US! Say "Hi," share news, moan and groan, laugh and get some TLC.

Good luck to all!
Veronica

[ August 24, 2001: Message edited by: Veronica ]

ASaint
08-16-2001
09:55 PM
Hello! It's me again, a.k.a "Ange" from Voy forums. I'm still posting over there also, as there are so many sweet people who are frequent visitors. However, on this forum I do feel much more...hmmm... how should I put it? Well, Veronica and Wai will know what I'm trying to say! <grins> lol

Hello to Meg and everyone!

Meg
08-17-2001
09:16 AM
Great to see you too Ange!
Veronica
08-17-2001
10:02 AM
I know what you mean, Ange, you naughty girl! <grins>
ASaint
08-17-2001
07:53 PM
LOL!
smeyer777
08-21-2001
04:24 PM
Hi All,
I'm taking a moment to check in. Many have asked about you at the voy, Veronica. We realy miss you. Now we just have to refer them to the Veronica2 archives.

I think I will probably do most of my posting in the kitchen since that is where my interest lies. However, "Acne and Sex" sounds pretty interesting too. I love talking about sex and obviously, I can't stop talking about acne. So I guess I can 'have my cake and eat it too' so-to-speak

Veronica
08-21-2001
05:33 PM
Hey Sue, you're still funny as ever! I'm glad I finally caught you here. The Kitchen is really nice isn't it? It's fun to be able to talk about that stuff finally.

So, have you solved your beard rash thing yet?

Love,
Veronica
P.S. Hi Meg, Ange, Dianne! Anyone else here yet?

Karen
08-22-2001
01:32 PM
Hey Veronica - it's me Karen!!!

I was so excited to get your e-mail!!! I will probably spend the next hour or so looking around this place, it looks extraordinary and it is a real credit to Wai! I am very happy to have a line of communication to you again and I was very touched by your words, as I really found your presence on Voy so reassuring, you were like an angel watching over everyone the way you did. This, although I really got to know you mostly through the archives. You have so much to offer those of us with this condition as you seem to have been through it all, and came out the other side with nothing but hope and love to offer. A lot of people like to blame the bad things that they have done on bad things that have happened to them previously in their lives. I think that you are a beautiful example that we can either take nasty experiences and let them cloud our lives with hate for the whole world, or we can get over it and use the experience to help others with even more love, compassion, and empathy. There is always that choice. Thank you for being such an example in so many ways!!!
I did not want to believe that Just Me kicked you off the board. Until you mailed me and said that others have been kicked off as well, I was sure it must be a mistake. That really saddens me and I am very sorry for you and everyone at the board. I will also continue to post there, as I still feel like I should do what I can to help anyone over there, but I WILL use more caution!
In answer to your question, I am taking 3 guggulbolic per day. I am not disheartened- medications work in their own time in different people. But today on day 3 of the Wai diet, I really think there are positive changes in my skin! The icepicks seem smaller and the texture is better. Could be that I am just having a good day, but I don't think so. I am eating one egg a day, and tomorrow I will begin 2. I have had more energy and a more positive outlook, I cannot wait to start 2 eggs!
Well, enough of my ramblings for the day, I am just glad we have met again and look forward to chatting with you in the future!

Love and big smiles, Karen

Veronica
08-22-2001
02:24 PM
Whoo hoo, Karen, you made it! That was fast! Gee, it's so nice to have you around, I get such a kick out of all your energy. Thanks, once again, for your incredibly kind words - I think you feel the love and hope because that's how your live your life, too, Karen.

Day three, huh? It's great you are already seeing a difference, I could tell something was happening, too, just texture-wise. Tell me what you see in your face on day five, ok? That's when I noticed the puffiness gone, it was really amazing. Also, I started to realize how other people looked puffy, when I hadn't noticed it before (it was good motivation for me when I saw them eating something I couldn't have!).

Yup, Wai has done an incredible job on this site. I love how it is so organized. She is a real doll.

I'm so glad we reconnected, Karen! Hi to Ange, Meg, Sue, Dianne.
Love,
Veronica

smeyer777
08-22-2001
05:45 PM
Well Veronica,
I was going to post my answer regarding the rash-beard thing in the acne-sex thread but I couldn't find it. I forgot where it was.

Anyway, I wouldn't do any "intimate face rubbing" with my boyfriend until he shaved. When he asked me "if it's okay to make love now", I said I hope so because I just put disifectant all over my face. Isn't that romantic? Anyway,over a period of experimentation, I have come to the conclusion that it isn't him causing the problem because the rash popped up during a period of abstinance. I really think I'm reacting to some kind external cause. I haven't had a bad onset for a while but I have also been staying in doors most of the time. Hmmmm. I guess I figure it out through the process of elimination. One thing that made me think was that it could be from all the nuts I was eating. I didn't realize until lately that there was a limit to how much "clean protein" you can eat !!!

ASaint
08-22-2001
07:34 PM
HEY GUYS!! Hi, Karen! So glad to see you here on the other side, so to speak! ha... I actually just posted on the Voy board before coming over here (I usually come here first though..don't know what compelled me to do differently tonight!) Anyway, yeah, now that it's out in the open... as you can see, "JM" is less than trustworthy in certain aspects. I also did not want to believe she would ban Veronica, until she and Wai told me a few things that made it pretty obvious that she was up to something. Now, I've noticed a lot of things on my own that make it very clear to me that she does underhanded things like that a lot! ( I hope I have not offended anyone by saying what I just said.. if you are a friend of JM's I do apologize!)

Also, Veronica...on Voy's scar message board, they're talking about you the Elicina you suggested. I believe it was "Brad" who said it was too bad you decided to not post anymore... I wrote back and said that it was beyond your control, that you received a message stating that you were not allowed to submit posts anymore. Wonder if that post of mine will get "lost" when the "archives crash?"

I'm going to write more on other topics on other threads....see you guys!!! So glad you're here!!

luv,
ange

ASaint
08-22-2001
07:37 PM
Sue.... sex topic? where is it? hmmmmm... let me go look!!
Veronica
08-23-2001
08:47 AM
Sue, I'm really glad it wasn't the face rubbing, imagine having to live without that? But still, it must be driving you crazy trying to figure out what it is. I used to feel like that with my acne because it would come in waves and then clear up pretty well. Now that I know how terribly sensitive I am to things in food, I realize what it must have been, so I'm thankful for that. I hope you figure it out, Sue.

Ange, thanks for doing that for me. I saw Brad's message - what a sweetheart, I do remember chatting with him a long time ago.

Hi Meg, Dianne, anyone else around?

Love,
Veronica

Karen
08-23-2001
01:19 PM
Hey everyone!! Nice to see you ASaint! Hey Sue! Hey Veronica! I'm so glad everyone's here, now we just have to figure out a way of getting Rianne over here. Veronica- Brad & I have been comparing Elicina notes over the past week - it was like it suddenly kicked in after about a month for both of us - great, huh? Between that and feeling so positive about this wonderful diet, I have been feeling better than I have in a long time! I told Brad he should e-mail you, you'd love to hear his story. The icepicks are getting more & more faint, it's so exciting! Later I'm gonna try to create a thread for different kinds of oils to use and how to use them -- I just ordered some coconut oil and am eager to get it - I gag on the olive oil! Look for it if you get a chance OK?

Love to all, Karen

smeyer777
08-23-2001
01:33 PM
Karen,
Don't you use balsimic vinegar with your olive oil? I'd gag too without it. Glad to see you here. I was so horrified to find out that Veronica2 was blocked from the voy site, I decided to boycott it. Now I see that "jon" posted a url that basically flames Wai--nothing to do with the diet. I really liked the voy...too bad. I'm glad I found a new therapy group.: (See Veronica, Asaint, Meg, Karen and Wai)

Sue

[ August 23, 2001: Message edited by: Sue ]

Veronica
08-23-2001
06:35 PM
You guys are all just great! Ange, I see your message didn't make it on the Voy board, but Karen's did - thank you both. Karen, got your email, I loved how you did that for Fer, it gave me great relief! I'm so happy the Elicina is kicking in for you, it's pretty amazing isn't it? I wonder how many people have given up when they were so close and didn't know? And day 4 of the diet - the mood lift is incredible, not that it looks like you are ever in a bad mood!

Sue, thanks for your support. I'd love it if you had the time to post on both boards, but if you have to pick one, I'm selfish! So I get the tongue, huh? It's either because I'm a big mouth or for the Chocolate thread! Probably both, now that I think about it........

Love yall <Karen >,
- Veronica

BrilloPad
08-23-2001
07:28 PM
Hey girls! Can I join the club? heehee, I never posted on Voy, mostly just AbsoluteAcneInfo, but lately, there have been some very negative vibes over there (Veronica knows what I'm talking about), and this forum looks great! My name is Rachel, btw.

May I ask why you were kicked off Voy, Veronica?

ASaint
08-23-2001
10:14 PM
Well, well well....you're right, V. no post from Ange on the scar board I see. JM knows that I'm on to her, it's obvious. Every time I make a casual comment about the unfortunate and unexplainable nature of V2 not having access anymore, those posts mysteriously disappear. But I suppose the board just crashed and those archives disappeared <sniffles>

I'm thinking of boycotting Voy also, but I also want to be there to support those who are still around, and get ideas from them as well. Also... how can we bring them to us? (I referred to my last post to Karen that I would see her on "the other side" hehe...but who knows if that will get posted).

As far as I can gather, I think JM was/is jealous of both Veronica and Wai because of their vast knowledge and incredible helpfulness on the Voy board. Also, V and JM didn't quite see eye to eye on the whole guggul issue, which made me want to buy it even more! Notice my recent posts have been geared a lot toward guggul? I always word everything carefully, as do not want it to disappear or get banned. But at this point...ha... I think it would be funny to be banned. I mean... now that I have you guys, who cares??

Hey...is there any way we can all have a "real time" chat? i.e. meet in a chat room at the same time....have a group chat on aol, etc. That would be cool!

ASaint
08-23-2001
10:19 PM
p.s. ok, the Elicina sounds awesome. I looked into it casually before, but the snail thing raised an eyebrow...or two...but now I'm convinced it may just do something for me, after reading your post, Karen (and Veronica's).

Hi, Rachel!! Of course, you can join our club!!

Veronica
08-24-2001
11:03 AM
Hi Rachel (I like that a lot better than Brillo!), I'm so glad you decided to join us. In fact, I'm going to edit my original post and change the name of the thread. We Voy people had lost touch and wanted to reconnect, but we are not the least bit cliquey (sp?). The Voy board is really nice and welcoming, very easy to make new friends and get some support and I can tell this board will be the same.

I guess what Ange says is probably the reason I was banned, but it just happened with no explanation. I have seen some sad things happen on acne boards, as you have, it's probably that people deal with their suffering in different ways. The only time I have ever seen anything close to it was last year, on financial message boards, when the market kept crashing!

Ange, I like your idea of a real-time chat. I use AOL instant messenger, I have it set up to only accept messages from people in my buddy list, so if you all give me your screen names, I'll put you guys in the list. We could trade screen names through the "send new private message" feature on this board. Click on the little envelope with two people shaking hands. I'll send each of you mine that way.

Have a great day, everyone!
Love,
Veronica

P.S. Sue, I can't send you a private message. You can turn it on if you like by going to "My Profile." This board is so cool.

[ August 24, 2001: Message edited by: Veronica ]

Karen
08-24-2001
02:27 PM
Hey yall!!! Sue those gremlins were so cute -you made me laugh out loud! I'll have to try the baslalmic vinegar with the olive oil, hopefully that will be better. I'm so glad to have all of yall to talk to I have to say, you all take such a weight off my shoulders, thank you! Veronica, it was a great idea to change the category name, so we can all just have a place to shoot the breeze, it's so fun coming home to read everybody's messages when I'm done with work (or school!). And thank YOU for allowing me to help Fer (with a little help from my friends!). You know, I was thinking, maybe we could at least get Rianne here if I posted a message to her to email me because I have something private to tell her that I don't want spread all over the internet. What do yall think, I think maybe JM would let that through. I don't think she has any huge bones to pick with me (YET!).

And I am so excited about the elicina yall- it IS amazing to see the progress Veronica, and I am so glad that you are ordering it ASaint. Between that and the Wai high I am on cloud nine! I'm glad that you started the Elicina thread, ASaint, everyone should know about it. I realize that you're right that it's not great for very long term use, Veronica, because of the drying/flaking, but it is a great solution for scar reduction.

Rachel, welcome to the club! I look forward to getting to know you.

Nice homage to the us tarheels down South, Veronica !

Yall take care! Love,Karen

Veronica
08-24-2001
09:44 PM
You just sound so happy, Karen ! It really would be great if we could get Rianne over here, too, I miss her. She seems so romantic and dreamy, what with the armfuls of lavendar, walking on the moors, candles in the bath listening to Gregorian chants. I have faith you will manage it somehow. If not, we can always send in another mole!

Enjoy the weekend, everyone
Love,
Veronica

[ August 24, 2001: Message edited by: Veronica ]

goracergo
08-24-2001
10:17 PM
Woh! why was veronica banned from the voy forum?
ASaint
08-25-2001
07:21 AM
I panicked when I could not find the "Voy People Meet Here!" then I realized it had changed. Good idea, Veronica, to change it to "New members meet here.."

Ok, here's my latest post on Voy which probably won't make it: (but just to show you guys what I'm now going through over there):

>>Hey JM...

Just out of curiosity, I was wondering why several of my last posts have not shown up on the board. I've definitely hit "approve," but have yet to see them. Is this a technical problem? Just wondering!

Thanx<<

Nope, she hasn't been posting anything of mine on the board. NOt that I've been officially banned yet, but that may be next. Then I can join the banned....in the USA club! (ok, doing a Springsteen ripoff here, I'm sorry!)

Goracergo...see my previous post as to why we think V. was banned from Voy. BTW... it's pretty obvious that every time JM says the board has crashed and it is beyond her control, we notice that the lost archives are things that she does not want hanging around (any comments about Veronica not being able to post... any negatives about Skin Culture...positives about guggul...that comment from "Lurker" -I believe- about JM knowing exactly how to ban someone, etc.)I've had several that weren't posted, if they had anything to do with Veronica...and my last non-posted post was to Karen, and I said, "see ya on the other side!" at the end. Hmmmmm...

But anyway...so glad several of us cool people have made it over here! Who needs Voy, anyway? You guys are awesome!!!

Veronica
08-25-2001
11:07 AM
Heya, Ange, welcome to the Wayward Voyagers Club! It seems you are defacto banned, as long as the board is in manual moderate mode. I'm very sorry this has all happened as that is a wonderful board with people about whom I care very much.

Sorry for the scare on the thread name, Ange, I started realizing others weren't joining in on the fun, DOH My mistake.

Hey Racer, glad to see you here! I met Racer on the Absolute board (had to go somewhere while I was waiting for WaiTalk!), he is very wise, helpful and FUNNY!

See you guys on the threads!
Love,
Veronica

Karen
08-25-2001
01:59 PM
Hey yall! Ange, I'm sorry that your posts aren't being put up. That really sucks. I just put up a post on Voy asking Rianne to e-mail me. Hopefully it will make the cut. Veronica, I left some questions for you at the elicina thread...could you be a dear and help me out yet again thanks sweetie! Think I see how to do the aol IM, I'm gonna try it next time I see you are online. What's everybody else's screen name?

Well, yall, I'm off to get some fruit & oil-mmmmm...yummy!

Love, Karen

Karen
08-25-2001
02:04 PM
Hey yall- guess what!!?? My post is up on voy asking Rianne to e-mail me! We may just get her over here, yet!

Power to the People! Karen

Karen
08-26-2001
11:21 AM
OK Veronica, Ange, I have Rianne's e-mail address. What should I tell her exactly? I know she thinks Just Me can do no wrong. I'm afraid it will break her heart, or that she just won't believe me or something. What do you think would be best to say? I know she misses you Veronica, and would love to speak to you. Well, any ideas would be welcome. Thanks yall, love ya!

Karen

[ August 26, 2001: Message edited by: Karen ]

Veronica
08-26-2001
11:31 AM
You are so sweet, Karen. I have the same concerns about her. Maybe you could just tell her about this new board, and that we miss her? I would just love to see an "As Always" here.

Love,
Veronica

ASaint
08-26-2001
03:00 PM
Yeah, I miss Rianne too! But I also have those same concerns, and do not know how she would react, esp. after reading this thread of posts regarding JM (she thinks very highly of her). Perhaps Karen, you could fill her in a little, and perhaps Veronica could e-mail her privately at first and tell her side of things, then I could, etc. etc. Rianne posted something on Voy once where she told me to ask JM for her private e-mail address so i could email her, but I didn't NOT want to contact JM for anything! So, we never did.

What was it you referred to us as? Wayward voyagers? LOL! Too funny! Keep me posted regarding Rianne. She's such a sweetie!

Ange

ASaint
08-26-2001
03:02 PM
Veronica.... did you get my private message with my aol screen name? Just wondering...
Karen
08-26-2001
03:17 PM
Hey everybody ! Hey Veronica, I think that I read a reply of Wai's on the Voy sight that we are supposed to be PEELING our fruit!? I didn't know! Is that right? What about grapes, peaches, and strawberries? So far I wouldn't say I've had great results with the diet, but it is a little better. I think things were complicated by the fact that 3 days into the diet it was that time of the month for me. Anyway, truckin along at day 7, here. I haven't been cheatin, unless you count the fruit peel! I did e-mail Rianne, and I told her a little of what has gone on. I didn't want her to get to this sight and be shocked of what was in here. But guess what? My post on Voy from this afternoon didn't show up, and it didn't say anything in the least bit inflammatory! Hmmm...maybe I just forgot to hit approve??? I dunno. I noticed yours got through, Ange. Gotta tell ya, I loved the part about the technical difficulties! Well, yall take care!

Love ya, Karen