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| Author | Topic: how much protein for a big guy like me? |
| nik 02-22-2003 09:34 PM | Hello Wai, I have been slowly adapting to the sample diet, I love to eat meat and have grown up with a nordic midwestern diet containing tons of meat,milk,pasta etc, but Im progressively adding in more sample diet stuff, and taking out high dirty-protein content stuff, its fun and interesting and exciting. Anyway, I am a male, 6 foot 6 inches tall, I weigh about 230 pounds, and I lift weights 3 times a week. I have worked up to consuming 5 egg yolks a day and I still usually eat a little meat every couple days (which I eventually want to completely abstain from for two weeks strictly). My question is, if I only eat egg yolks for protein, how many do I need to eat to get the proper amount of protein? I am making sure to frequently consume shots of orange juice with fat and sugar added, which feels really good for energy and mood upliftment by the way! And ofcourse to avoid muscle protein depletion as you have suggested. Thanks for your time and enlightening work! Frugivore |
| Wai 02-23-2003 02:16 PM | quote:you're a BIG guy Frugi! what you need, is protein, but more specifically, you need to count the intake of methionine and cysteine, since these are the limiting amino acids... To make it easy to check your protein intake, the nutrient calculator lists cysteine and methionine contents. You need about 26 mg methionine plus cystein (methione > cysteine), per kg bodyweight. 230 pounds is about 104 kg, right? So, according to the FAO/WHO, you need about 2704 mg cysteine plus methionine daily. Suppose you're only consuming OJ (with lots of oil and sugar, for the energy), some bananas and some egg yolks every day, then, to ingest enough energy and other nutrients, you would need about 4.5 liter OJ, 8 bananas, 50 grams Brazil nuts and 12 egg yolks daily, to ingest 2715 mg cysteine plus methionine If you would consume more fruits / juices instead of the oil and sugar, you would need less egg yolks, since the fruits/juices contain amino acids, while oil and sugar do not... Consuming no Brazil nuts, you need more egg yolks / fruits / juices What you should do, is submit your diet to the nutrient calculator... |
| engesongwok 02-23-2003 04:36 PM | Thats interesting. It sounds like protein (amino acids) is really not a major problem on the sample diet. what you suggested meets his needs, but really isn't that varied. How much easier would it be on a much more varied diet. I haven't the slightest idea of how much of what foods that I eat, but I freely eat until I am full, and I eat a variety of fresh fruit, nuts and raw egg yolk. (usually about 4 to 6 per day, but I have eaten as much as 9 in one day...had a particular craving for it. I hope this isn't too much) I don't work out, just walk everyday. (I don't own a car I think its a bad habit unless someone REALLY absolutely needs it.) |
| nik 03-09-2003 01:32 PM | Wai, I just want to thank you again for your advice and offer an update on how Im doing with the diet and the acne. One of my big concerns was losing muscle weight and mass while adapting to this diet, I am tall and already very lean, very little fat to lose, so I was carefull. But I have actually gained some weight and its not even fat, Ive gained 5-10 pounds, and it doesnt seem to be water weight retention because my muscle tone is more visible. I still am eating meat and bread, but much less, because I feel wonderfully satisfied with the addition of lots of fresh fruit, raw nuts, 5 yolks a day, and I LOVE the salad-Ive added lime juice to it which is amazing! I think one reason I may have gained weight is that I am actually able to digest and process the food successfully. I used to have much more flatulence than I do now, I hardly get it at all now. And the big question: how is my acne? It is practically gone completely! I never get it on my jawline anymore, and my back-the worst area-is clearing up daily, just a bunch of little old dead scabby skin stuff that is healling quickly. If I do get new acne its always on my back and very very small and goes away quickly. I am soooo glad I read your work, it convinced me to start eating better and helped me develop a feeling of health empowerment and health confidence.I feel wonderful. Thanks again Wai and keep up the good work! Frugivore ![[Smile]](../smile.gif) |
| Wai 03-12-2003 12:59 PM | Engesongwok,quote:i was just giving an example, not a varied diet quote:well, that is perfect! |
| Wai 03-12-2003 01:01 PM | Thank you Frugivore! for informing us about your progress i'm REALLY happy for you! |