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AuthorTopic: I've low blood sugar, speedy metabolism
Chriz
01-02-2003
10:08 PM
Hello hello. This is my first post on this excellent website. It makes so much logical sense, pieces of the puzzle are coming together =). When I learned that the body recreates itself virtually every year, i knew diet played an extreme role in acne. The problem was finding the info on such a controversial subject. Until now.

Well I have the brazil nuts, from nutsonline.com and i bought the nut cracker from black orchards.. the design could be better.. it takes some time to get into the shell. I picked up a juice extractor.. the centrifugal one, for anyone reading this dont try to juice the orange with the peel.. it has a very disagreeable taste. I think a hand pump extractor will be the way to go. Ill let you know.

Questions. I am 6'3 180 lbs.. already very thin. I have mild acne, but I am a perfectionist, and I am very interested in nutrition. I have low blood sugar (hypoglycimia runs in my family as well as diabetes) I am curious if this might attribute to the fact that I can not gain weight, even with a "normal" diet. So imagine my concern, on this diet, without the complex carbs and my speedy gonzales metabolism, I am worried that I will dissapear. My goal is about 210 lbs, What are we looking at as far as fruit/nut/yolk consumption in order to maintain this weight? Yes I am shooting for the ripped look.

Thanks to all of you wonderful people, who are giving far more than they are recieving, as far as I am concerned.

-Chriz
Wai
01-06-2003
02:31 PM
hi Criz, welcome!!!

quote:
I have low blood sugar (hypoglycimia runs in my family as well as diabetes) I am curious if this might attribute to the fact that I can not gain weight, even with a "normal" diet.
absolutely.
Your body will only start creating more muscle volume, when the 'indicators' in the body say that the conditions are good for this. And if your blood sugar level is relatively low, the body will not go in such a 'catabolic mode'; it will not increase the secretion of the hormones that trigger the creation of muscles.

And... when the blood sugar level is a bit low, the body will convert muscle tissue into available energy.

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So imagine my concern, on this diet, without the complex carbs and my speedy gonzales metabolism, I am worried that I will dissapear.
I understand.
But.. with a normal diet, the blood sugar level is NOT elevated. what happens with a normal level, is that the peaks are much higher, triggering the secretion of insulin much more, but these peaks are alternated with decreased blood sugar levels, because people generally eat a few big meals a day, and the 'grazing' in between meals cannot sufficiently compensate for this.

So, it is NOT that a normal diet can more easily give you a higher blood sugar level than this diet.
The trick to gain muscle mass, is to keep your blood sugar level very stable. And to do so, you need to consume small quantities of energy almost constantly, and you need to consume sufficient fat all the time.

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My goal is about 210 lbs, What are we looking at as far as fruit/nut/yolk consumption in order to maintain this weight?
We are looking for consuming sufficient energy constantly. It is impossible to give any amounts, because that depends on how much energy you need, EXACTLY.
the only way to be able to do so, is by learning to listen to your energy needs: your blood sugar level.
By controlling your blood energy level, you can determine your muscle mass.

quote:
Yes I am shooting for the ripped look.
the ripped look is what comes automatically with this diet; because you will eliminate water retention in the skin (making the muscles more visible). And, of course, you will not have any overweight.

PS, I will change the title/subject line of this thread after you have responded to my post, because every thread needs a title/subject line that tells you about the contents of it, so that one can easily see what threads to read.
Chriz
01-07-2003
11:04 AM
Wai.

Thank you for your prompt reply in regards to my posting. I spent a couple hours going over all the information that is presented in your book. I believe I have the general "gist" of things.

On to the questions, it appears many foods dont have very much protein in them. Aside from various meats and dairy products. If "dirty protein" is the long lasting cause that creates water retention because it is not easily absorbed or excreted. Why is it that we eliminate all foods, why dont we just eliminate cooked foods? I understand there are many other factors of "other foods" but for the purposes of acne would this be feasible?

You also had stated that salt and drastic blood sugar spikes only triggers water retention in some people and not others. Why is this? Is there any sort of link between what causes some people to experience water retention and others not to? Is it just hormonal and genetics or is there another underlying factor?

In regards to the above answer. You had stated I need to consume energy constantly.. is there some types of energy that is clean, that are more complex than others, so that the breakdown will be slower, so constantly can be not so constant? Perhaps consuming fats, which you had stated are used for long term energy, could be consumed as opposed to short term energy (sugars). Is there enough glucose for the brain in fats in order to retain brain function? What is the purpose behind consuming sugars for short term energy?? "I need to be aware of my bodies energy needs, i.e. blood sugar level." What are the signs, hunger and dizziness or is there more to this?

Last one I promise =) My mother has cancer, can you give me the heads up on anything that she might be able to focus on in order to rid her body of this disease? It appears to be plugging up her blood flow or lymph flow, because her leg has swelled to 3x the normal size. She has been focusing on supplements that supposedly kill the cancerous cyst. And consuming organic foods as opposed to the normal store bought foods. The cyst is on a bone, so it can not be removed with surgery, and she does not want to put poisons in her body. So kemo therapy and radiation is not an option.

Take your time I know your a busy person.

Thanks,
Chriz.

P.S. I just reviewed my post and realized how much I just asked. Take your time!! Only answer when you're bored or something, so I dont feel too bad for monopolizing your time. [Big Grin]
Wai
01-07-2003
03:00 PM
quote:
Take your time!! Only answer when you're bored or something, so I dont feel too bad for monopolizing your time.
thank you!
I will
Wai
01-09-2003
07:00 AM
Chriz,

quote:
it appears many foods dont have very much protein in them. Aside from various meats and dairy products.
grains, beans and seeds are high in protein too.

quote:
If "dirty protein" is the long lasting cause that creates water retention because it is not easily absorbed or excreted.
Salt likely causes water retention. And, in some, sugars too.
Salt and 'dirty' protein do NOT cause water retention "because they are not easily absorbed or excreted".
They can cause water retention because they have water-attracting properties, and do cause water retention if their level is elevated, due to a high consumption level and/or low excretion / decomposition rate.

quote:
Why is it that we eliminate all foods, why dont we just eliminate cooked foods?
All foods?
ehrr, this diet DOES contain foods...
We eliminate all cooked foods from the diet, plus those foods that cannot be digested well in their raw form, plus all dairy products (raw or not), plus all spices and salt (because of their water attracting properties).

quote:
but for the purposes of acne would this be feasible?
no, especially regarding acne, optimum digestion and consuming no salt / spices are very essential too.

quote:
You also had stated that salt and drastic blood sugar spikes only triggers water retention in some people and not others. Why is this?
That only goes for sugars, not salt.
In some, the blood sugar level is less strictly regulated by the insulin system, so that in those people the blood sugar level (and skin-sugar level) can be temporarily elevated, which has water-attracting properties.
In most acne patients, the blood sugar level is strictly regulted, which is normal.

quote:
Is there any sort of link between what causes some people to experience water retention and others not to? Is it just hormonal and genetics or is there another underlying factor?
There are multiple factors, such as hormones (indeed), diet and individual differences ('genetically determined susceptibility').

quote:
You had stated I need to consume energy constantly.. is there some types of energy that is clean, that are more complex than others, so that the breakdown will be slower, so constantly can be not so constant?
Ah, you are looking for a way to not having to be fixated on ingesting energy so much.
There is such a source of energy. They are called "fruits". [Big Grin]
Fruits are 'clean', complex, and only gradually , slowly digested.
But, no, they are not available as a supplement.

Fat and sugars are very clean sources of energy, and if you ingest them gradually, they will only gradually be utilized.
But they DO require constant availability / ingestion in small quantities.
But, if you make a bottle of juice with sugar and oil added, it doesn't take that much effort to take a zip every few minutes.

quote:
Perhaps consuming fats, which you had stated are used for long term energy, could be consumed as opposed to short term energy (sugars).
Yes, they are perfectly complementary.

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Is there enough glucose for the brain in fats in order to retain brain function?
No. You need to obtain the glucose form either sugars or part of the protein.

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What is the purpose behind consuming sugars for short term energy??
Glucose can be utilized for energy very fastly, as opposed to fatty acids. Whenever you use your muscles, to get up, climb the stairs etc., you are utilizing glucose, which need to be replenished to be able to do so next time as well.

quote:
"I need to be aware of my bodies energy needs, i.e. blood sugar level." What are the signs, hunger and dizziness or is there more to this?
Lack of energy, fatigue, depression, moodyness, lack of concentration, sleepyness, decreasing muscle volume.

quote:
My mother has cancer, can you give me the heads up on anything that she might be able to focus on in order to rid her body of this disease?
Cancer is an end result of eating bad foods (or exposure to other toxins (polluted air, cigarette smoke, environmental toxins).
Whether she survives, depends on whether her defense system can eliminate the cancer cells, or not, and whether she needs help from chemotherapy (toxins destroying both cancer cells and healthy cells), and on how aggressive the tumor is. (how fast it multiplies)

You can PREVENT cancer by following a toxin-free diet, but once you have cancer, such a diet cannot eliminate the cancer.
But, if her defense system can eliminate the cancer cells, diet can support her in these efforts, by saving her from the por-oxidative stress from newly ingested toxins, which MIGHT be the decisive swift in balance in favor of her defense system.

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She has been focusing on supplements that supposedly kill the cancerous cyst. And consuming organic foods as opposed to the normal store bought foods. The cyst is on a bone, so it can not be removed with surgery, and she does not want to put poisons in her body. So kemo therapy and radiation is not an option.
I certainly would not exclude chemotherapy / radiation as an option, as for some, it is the only remaining option and the difference between life and death.
So, you first need to be 100% completely sure to as what her options / chances are.
How aggressive is her cancer?
Is it growing, or is there are status quo now?

"consuming organic foods as opposed to the normal store bought foods" is just a small part in preventing the uptake of new toxins. Every time that she eats cooked foods, she ingests new toxins.
Every time that she ingests any dairy product, she ingests new growth factors and hormones that stimulate cell growth, including that of cancer cells.
Eating these foods, you're putting poison in your body.
Achig
01-10-2003
01:43 PM
Wai:

Can you please tell me why you (and/or others)
say you need sugars for brain energy or fast
energy, but do not include some carbohydrate foods
that raise blood sugar faster than eating pure
sucrose sugar (according to glycemic index)? [Confused] I can't imagine what basic thing I may be unaware of or overlooking. You wrote:

____________________________________________
No. You need to obtain the glucose form
either sugars or part of the protein.
____________________________________________

Achig
RRM
01-12-2003
01:53 PM
Hello Achig,

quote:
Can you please tell me why you (and/or others) say you need sugars for brain energy or fast energy, but do not include some carbohydrate foods that raise blood sugar faster than eating pure sucrose sugar (according to glycemic index)?
When Wai says sugars, she means all natural sugars (sucrose, glucose, fructose etc.).

And to answer your question:
Because there is no need to raise the blood sugar faster.
By consuming some sugars (from whatever source, you will supply the brain with the glucose that it needs.
And if you constantly eat enough protein, you, strictly speaking, don't even need to obtain the glucose from the sugars/carbs, because then there is constantly enough protein (amino acids) in the blood that is converted into glucose to supply the brain.

So, it is not about speed, because with this diet you don't first create a lack of glucose and then having to undo this lack of glucose as fast as possible.
With this diet, you make sure to constantly eat small bits of food containing enough sugars, so that there never is a rush to supply your brain with glucose.
But, yes, in practise, I prefer the sugars over the protein, because I usually prefer the faster energy. But, there is no need for energy that supplies your brain with glucose even faster.

What other carbohydrate food did you have in mind?
Achig
01-13-2003
12:51 AM
RRM:

Thank you for making Wai's point about
how blood sugar can be kept more steady clear.
I appreciate what you say about protein also
contributing to blood sugar and stability of
it. Since many fruits have significant/some
protein, it shows they are a best food
for another reason. They spread protein
consumption out over the day, which stabilizes
blood sugar and eliminates the heavy demands
(as Wai mentions) of eating a high protein meal
instead.

My original question is why we don't also
consider some carbohydrates as "brain food"
also, since they are quickly turned to glucose,
as Wai reminds us, and raise blood glucose
equally well as sugar (but fruits keep blood
sugar steadier for the protein reason I now
know). Oatmeal is a healthy carbohydrate food
that raises blood sugar fast like fruits, or
sucrose, according to the G. Index. Perhaps
Wai or others say Sugars, is because there are
no (or few) carbohydrates that are soluble in
water, and so conveniently and quickly usable
to raise blood sugar, as sugar water or sweet
fruit juices, because they can easily be drunk.
I think I partly answered my own question.
Thank you.

Achig
Wai
01-13-2003
01:02 PM
quote:
Oatmeal is a healthy carbohydrate food
Oatmeal is never raw.
also, all grains contain enzyminhibitors, though oats are the least bad.
also, grains are high starch foods, and over-triggering the insulin response is not okay; starch is a long chain of glucose molecules only, instead of mixed glucose + fructose, thus causing a higher insulin peak, which is unnecessary, and eventually may be harmful.
Consuming sugars from juices / fruits, the first sugars are utilized immediately, and then the rest is gradually utilized.

So, fruit sugars contain sufficient glucose, which are rapidly absorbed, and ensure a gradual utilization (because of the fructose).
Starches from grains, on the other hand are not easily digested / absorbed, but when they are, all the glucose is utilized almost all at once, causing a strong insulin peak.

quote:
Perhaps Wai or others say Sugars, is because there are no (or few) carbohydrates that are soluble in water, and so conveniently and quickly usable to raise blood sugar, as sugar water or sweet fruit juices, because they can easily be drunk.
I think I partly answered my own question.

yes [Smile]