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| Author | Topic: Fats with sugar or not.. |
| Pan 10-29-2002 06:51 AM | .. is what I am thinking of. So.. this question is directed mostly to Wai of course :-) Is it ok to skip the fat during the day and only consume a lot of fruit and juices more often (in large amounts) in order to have a stable bloodglucose? My concern is keeping muscles/gaining muscles and moodswings. IOW if I manage to eat fruit enough to feel energized and happy during the day is that ok? The fats would be eaten in two meals, as maybe yolks for breakfast and sashimi for "dinner". Part of the reason I wonder is that I´ve heard that the body excrete more insulin when fat is consumed with sugar, and long term that could cause problems with insulin/sugar metabolism. I´ve also "heard" (from Dr D. Graham) that Candida can be a problem because the sugar is "hold" longer by the fat, don´t know if tht means "hold" in the intestines or blood. Thanks in advance /Peter |
| Wai 10-29-2002 01:22 PM | quote:the more fat, the more stable the blood-glucose level. the larger the amounts of fruits (less meals), the less stable the blood sugar level; the more meals (lesser amounts), the more stable. Consuming small fruit meals, with fat most of the time, is best. That way the the conversion of muscle tissue into available energy is prevented. quote:It is no guarantee, because your body may produce higher level of hormones / neurotransmitters to keep you happy (ie epinephrine, serotonin), while converting muscle tissue into energy... quote:It is far more effective to eat fat with every meal; ie olive oil in juice, or nuts after fruit. You can easily carry nuts with you all the time, just as you can carry bottles filled with juices with you. quote:Yes, fats also trigger the insulin system, but we have to make a clear distinction between a raw food diet and a non-raw food diet. Diabetes is caused by over-burdening the insulin system. This is never due to simply stimulation of insulin secretion (caused by eating food), but by consuming food when your body does not need the energy (1), or by consuming too little fat (2). (1) When your blood sugar level is relatively high, AND the glycogen depots are full, extra energy intake can cause an error in the insulin system because the extra energy cannot be stored rapidly, thus the production of insulin keeps on being stimulated, while this insulin cannot end the situation of overload of energy in the blood, thus the same energy molecules keep on triggering the secretion of insulin, which is inhibited by the secretion of glucagon. It is like telling sombody constantly to move to the right, while someone else constantly tells him to move to the left; this eventually will lead to a situation in which the person simply ignores one or both orders. So, the issue is: When do we consume more food even when there is no need for its energy? This happens when our appetite is stimulated by appetite stimulating substances instead of our body's need for energy. Cooked food always contains such substances (beta-carbolines), and also wheat- and dairy-products always do (opioid peptides). Consuming raw foods only, and no wheat and dairy products, you will not over-eat, and thus not impair the insulin system. (2) Besides alcohol, our blood contains only 2 sources of energy: fat-like molecules and sugar-like molecules (redundant protein is converted into both). Fat is long-lasting, slow energy, while sugars are fast but short-lasting energy. together they are perfectly complementary. Without the fat, all the required energy needs to come from sugars, which will cause stronger fluctuations in the blood sugar level. Also, if the blood contains lots of sugars, but no fat, this prevents the composition of tri-glycerides (3 fatty acids with 1 glycerol molecule), because the glycerol is available (from the sugars), but not the fatty acids, and thus the blood sugar level will remain high, keeping on triggering the release of insulin. Storing triglycerides prevents the repeated triggering of insulin secretion, preventing diabetes. Also check out http://www.13.waisays.com/diabetes.htm and this thread quote:Candida is NOT caused by sugars, but by drugs such as antibiotics. Once you have candida, then consuming sugars can be a problem, but it is never the cause. So, if you have no Candida right now, you don't have to worry at all; just make sure not to use antibiotics.... Check out this thread. |
| Pan 10-29-2002 03:51 PM | Thanks Wai, of course your answer gives me ten new questions :-) but I´ll save them and instead I´ll follow your advice for some time. Though I feel 100% better raw than cooked, I still have some downs when the sugar playes it´s tricks with me, so I will happily try "your" wai (Wai´s way, he he sounds funny) to see if I can both maintain a more stable menthal state as well as build/keep muscles more effectively. Thanks! /Peter |
| Wai 10-30-2002 01:05 PM | quote:Yes, that happens when the blood sugar level is not sufficiently stabilized by the intake of fats, and if you don't make sure to consume sufficient energy all the time. There are foods that, due to their amino acid composition and/or cholesterol level, specifically make you feel happy: http://www.13.waisays.com/ |