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Author	Topic: Depression
engesongwok 03-31-2003 09:49 PM	I have had a wonderful experience being free of anxiety and depression when starting the diet. I recently have been including perhaps excessive amounts of bread, and yesterday some cooked egg and meat. I felt SO sleepy and depressed today. Could eating bread for just a few days do that? what about cooked meat? even just a few onces in a sandwhich? thanks
Isis 04-01-2003 12:28 PM	One thing I have noticed about this diet (and this seriously bugs me! ) is that the body becomes so 'pure' and sensitive to the usual thrash that we used to eat. If you had any symptom that went away on the strict diet (or with limited munch foods) it seems that the moment you start to re-introduce dirty protien or bad fats that the old symptom comes back with a BANG!!!!!! For most of us it's bad breakouts, but there are some who have other non-acne symptoms. I used to be a junk food veteran. Nowadays if I eat some bad fats (say in a cooked carbohydrate meal) the next morning I will wake up with baaaad stomach cramps. I suffer with an IBD and that used to only occur when I had been eating tonnes of the 'offensive' food for days on end with no break in between. Now it happens almost straight away. Some people can deal with that but I can't, cus a gals just gat to eat some junk!
Lizzy 04-01-2003 07:52 PM	Hey all, I totally sympathize. Just to add my own experiences: I too have found that if I "cheat" even a little on the diet I get a really bad break-out. No half-way for me. It's been 6 months now. At first I didn't know what might or might not cause break-outs and so after my face had been really clear for a long time I would get all cocky and "push it" and much-out and hope I could get away with it. But... NOT A CHANCE. This was very frustrating. A source of great anguish even, because I would feel so darn "unlucky." In the past 6 months I experienced 3 really bad break-outs. But... I am growing with the diet over time and it seems to have stopped bugging me that I can't handle much in the way of munch foods. I guess as time goes by I am just more resigned to the fact that it's just the way my body is. And 'knowledge is power.' I now -know- what -will- cause a zit (or ten). There's just no hope left that I might be able to get away with eating certain foods (because I've tried), and so I just eat something else. And so what I have come to know about my body over time has allowed me to stop setting myself up for that brutal disappointment.
Cheryl2002 04-01-2003 08:40 PM	I fully empathize as myself is experiencing this too! For me it's milk and cheese and diary products! As long as I steer clear of them, I am ok. But the moment I indulge in some cheezels or ice-cream etc......that's it. SIGH. Anyone knows of any ice-cream tha contains less milk?
ninesky 04-02-2003 09:53 AM	I have also experienced this. More so then the lack of depression is the lack of apathy and the added amounts of compassion. I have been roughly on the diet for almost half a year.. entirely excluding all wheat and dairy products and cooked meats.. very rarely indulging in cooked rice. About a month ago I tried an experiment to see just how psychoactive the S.A.D. is. I dropped by McDonalds on the way back from school and ordered the "MEAL." And yes it was VERY psychoactive. For about 10-20 minutes after ingestion I experienced mild opiate like euphoria and numbness.. and for the rest of the day I felt 'numb' in body and mind and much apathy(coming down off of opiate high?)
engesongwok 04-03-2003 11:23 PM	Wow, thank you all for the support. I thought of my experience as unique. I suppose the good part is that my system is cleaner? Cheryl-try frozen durian, or fresh durian if its available in your area. I think that makes a great substitute for ice cream. Otherwise, try some fruit ices or chopping up some frozen fruit in a food processor. More compassion eh? I don't know if I want to purposely eat a McDonalds meal to see what happens. I have gone two days 99.99% raw ( a little tea with half and half, no grains. I think I have improved somewhat...but man...I guess I must be sensitive to wheat or cooked things, even after two days, I still don't feel like I did when I first started the 'diet'. I don't know why I 'cheat' I think its due to 'friends' encouraging me...I don't know why I give in. But thats another topic
engesongwok 04-13-2003 08:53 PM	I have the full symptoms of depression again. I slept in till 2 pm today. Of course I stayed up late last night. I will try to get up reasonably early tommarrow. (another day off) anything to suggest for preventing depression symptoms? Otherwise, I am thinking of going back on anti-depression meds again.
Cheryl2002 04-13-2003 09:29 PM	You may wan to try bananas dip in whipped cream? It makes me happier!!!! Another method which works for me is to talk to frens....or jus get out of the house and walk around.....catch a movie...immerse in a book store. Doing housework helps too.....Andnow with this SARS thing, I try not go out so often but stay at home and surf net.... You take care!
Wai 04-18-2003 05:33 PM	engesongwok, there are many dietary aspects in depression, have you read my website? yes, the opioid peptides in bread have depressing properties and yes, bad cholesterol and beta-carbolines in cooked eggs and meat can impair the metabols of neurotranssitters that co-regulate your mood... please check out this page: http://www.13.waisays.com/
engesongwok 04-21-2003 04:35 PM	Thank you! I always seem to miss something. Its good to re-read you suggestions on occation. I didn't catch the part about veggies and grain having cadmium and causing depression. I hope that if I go 100% fruit and egg yolk and raw fish, that I will feel different. Sometimes I feel ok if I just get out of bed before its too late, but sometimes it takes A LOT of effort to get out of bed. I have been keeping my windows open, so the morning light comes into my room. I think I need it to fall more directly on me. It stimulates me to wake up earlier!