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AuthorTopic: Olive Oil: a "refined" food?
mjkst27
04-18-2003
06:07 PM
I have been taking extra virgin olive oil several times a day since starting the diet in order to up my fat intake. I find it easy to do, and it's a good thing, since I don't enjoy eating whole olives.

But I got to thinking...just like refined sugars are a bad idea, isn't olive oil a refined food as well? Is it a problem to eat the olive's fat content w/o it's fiber, protein, etc? In other words, olive OIL isn't really a "natural" food. If we truly lived in nature, we would have to eat raw olives, if they were available in our corner of the savannah [Smile]
Wai
04-25-2003
09:24 AM
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just like refined sugars are a bad idea
why are they a bad idea, according to you?

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isn't olive oil a refined food as well?
pressing oranges is refining them, as well, but that doesn't mean that it is bad

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Is it a problem to eat the olive's fat content w/o it's fiber, protein, etc?
no, not at all

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In other words, olive OIL isn't really a "natural" food.
but that doesn't mean that it is bad
To me, it is bad ingredients that makes a food bad, not the fact whether it is refined, since this kind of refining is not be causing any bad substance

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If we truly lived in nature, we would have to eat raw olives
raw olives contain way too much oleuropin (a mild toxin)
so, strictly, any food coming from olives would be unnatural for us, but that doesn't mean that cold pressed olive oil is unhealthy
mjkst27
04-27-2003
12:18 PM
I would say that refined sugars are "bad" because they are consumed without the nutrients that should come attached to them, like eating fruits to get your sugars also gives you the minerals and vitamins you need. I guess it is a matter of how much refined sugars one gets in his diet. Americans typically get far too many (those eating the SAD, that is)
Wai
05-02-2003
11:18 AM
The posts about our ancestors and fat consumption have been moved to the thread with that title...

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Mike K wrote:
I would say that refined sugars are "bad" because they are consumed without the nutrients that should come attached to them

then they would only be bad if you ingest too little nutrients, and if i submit my diet (including sugar and oil) to the calculator, it appears that it supplies me with enough of all nutrients...

the good thing is that our body can very effectively adjust the nutrients absorption rate; if your diet is low in specific nutrients, your body simply increases the absorption rate (and lowers the excretion rate) of that nutrient (vitamin / mineral).

The reason for the excistence of this mechanism is simple; in nature you don't always have enough of the right foods available.