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AuthorTopic: Raw egg white
Daniel
01-03-2003
11:11 AM
Hi Wai,
About a year ago I came across your web site when I started exploring raw food diets for personal health reasons. I am amazed and appreciative of all the work you've done. Thank you!!
My question is regarding the eating of raw egg white. I am aware of the concerns with avidin binding with biotin. From my studies more than 25 years ago I recall it would take between 10-20 raw eggs a day to cause a problem. Are there possible benefits to eating the whole egg? Could you comment on the effects of just eating 2-3 whole raw eggs a day. It innately feels more natural to eat the whole egg like the gorilla and orangutan.
Thank you,
Daniel
Wai
01-06-2003
01:01 PM
hi Daniel,

quote:
From my studies more than 25 years ago I recall it would take between 10-20 raw eggs a day to cause a problem.
The depends on what you consider to be a problem.
To me, a sub-optimal diet is already a problem.
I think that you are referring to "a problem" as when a deficiency occurs. quite radical, isn't it?

BTW, it is also about ovomucoid...

Even if you eat only a tiny bit of raw egg white, that avidine will already cause less biotine to be absorbed into the blood, right?
Why would you think that is okay? because it doesn't cause a deficiency?

quote:
Are there possible benefits to eating the whole egg?
Eating whole eggs, there is quite a risk that you will dislike eating it eventually, BECAUSE of the avidine and ovomucoide; the body knows what is right for the body.
The egg white 'protects' the egg yolk.
Consuming 2 yolks is always better than consuming 1 yolk and 1 white. The yolk contains more nutrients, and no enzyminhibitors.
Why would you settle for less if you can have the best?
Why would you absorb less biotine?

quote:
Could you comment on the effects of just eating 2-3 whole raw eggs a day.
It is much better to eat 4 egg yolks or more instead...

quote:
It innately feels more natural to eat the whole egg like the gorilla and orangutan.
different animals have different skills where it comes to taking the best from a food.
We have the skills to take the best from the egg (the yolk), so why should we settle for the results from lesser skills?
Daniel
01-06-2003
04:29 PM
Thank you for your input on raw egg white. I instinctively ate raw egg yolks 25 years ago before I got a degree in Nutrition Science. It still taking me time to deprogram myself from some of their ideas. I started questioning my beliefs when I was reading some of Aajonus Vonderplanitz work where he felt it was better to eat the whole egg raw. But, he doesn't have any science to back it up. Thanks again for your help. I currently teach at two medical schools where I've exposed 100's of students and patients to your diet. Your diet is the best researched diet (raw or otherwise) I've come across. Thanks
Wai
01-07-2003
01:54 PM
quote:
I currently teach at two medical schools where I've exposed 100's of students and patients to your diet
Wow, that is very interesting!
What do you teach? nutrition?
Do you expose students to different diets so that they can experience the influence of diet on our well-being?

What do you think of the osteoporosis theory? http://www.4.waisays.com
Do you / your students do any experiments?
Daniel
01-07-2003
03:32 PM
Hi Wai,
I've taught nutrition in the past. I am mainly a clinician in two out patient college clinics. One is a naturopathic college clinic and the other is a chiropractic college clinic. In this state, Naturopathic Physicians have a wide variety of allopathic drugs(antibiotic, predisone,etc.) available to us, but we prefer to try dietary and lifestyle methods first. The only class I currently teach is dermatology. Most of my students are very open minded and are very interested in my opinion on the many dietary options. I gave them your theories on acne this last term and then gave them your web site. My personal journey into the health field started with a moderate to severe case of acne more than 25 years ago. I initially water fasted for 10 days, and then became a stict vegan for awhile. It eventually failed, because of peer pressure and cravings. My best success back then was the summer I lived off of fresh fruit, raw salad, nuts, egg yolks, and 2 day old wheat sprouts. This diet eventually faded away when I moved back to the dormitories in the fall. My acnes been gone for a long time now, but I continue to explore and study just about every diet that becomes popular. So far, I agree with yours the most. Thanks and take care, Daniel
engesongwok
01-27-2003
12:14 PM
What do you do with all the egg whites? I have been flushing them down the toilet, along with the bag of the yolk and the string. The bag and the string I don't see as a problem, but isn't there some use for the egg whites?
Wai
01-27-2003
01:42 PM
yes, you can use them as glue, but i don't know the proper processing method.
if you flush them down the drain, the drain will definitely get clogged eventually; thats why i'm also flushing them down the toilet
jay
02-21-2003
09:19 AM
Egg whites have a very high Biochemical Oxygen Demand (BOD) and take a lot of processing at the sewage treatment works. It is not very ecologically sound to flush egg white down the toilet and egg processing factories are fined big money for releasing egg waste into the sewer. If you live in a rural area and have a septic tank you are going to cause serious problems if you put any food down the toilet.
Any raw food can be composted but high nitrogen foods like egg whites should be mixed wih high carbon waste like straw for best results (least smell).

The egg whites and yolk sacs can be scrambled in a double saucepan (bain marie) at about 90C (194F) and will have many times less HCAs and denatured proteins than regular scrambled egg, also there will be virtually no oxidised cholesterol (if the yolk sacs were empty).

If you know a bodybuilder they often eat lots of egg white.

Scramble it with the yolk sacs and give to the poor.

Jay