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Author	Topic: good foundation
Sanna 11-03-2002 10:01 AM	Wai, can you please recommend a good brand of make-up (foundation)? What do you use?
RRM 11-03-2002 02:03 PM	Ehrrr, Wai is off for a few weeks, and I don't know the first thing about make up... I will see whether she can find some time to answer this one. Let me check out her make up, and see whether I can find something that says "foundation". hmm, I see something here that says: "Black Opal", "Kalahari Sand" (I guess the first is the brand and the latter is the color; Wai is not white, and this color will be way too dark for white women)
sunny 11-04-2002 04:34 PM	What is Wai's ethnic background, then? I've been having a hard time finding a foundation that matches my complexion. I'm Asian but I don't exactly have a yellow skin tone nor a pink one. Also, I am losing my resolve again in keeping up with the diet. After being on it strictly for 18 days, I broke down and started reaching for the worst food the sample diet frowns upon. I am always surrounded with food at the office, birthday parties and when I go out with friends. Needless to say, I am breaking out again. As much as I would want my friends to know why I need to lead a Wai-diet lifestyle because of acne, my own craving for cooked,processed and proteinacious food overpowers me (courtesy of beta carbolines and opiod peptides). The way the acne attacks my skin is simply woeful. I know I was able to make it work on those 18 days but I didn't go out with friends either and always had to refuse any processed and cooked food I was offered. I wish I were conditioned to lead this healthy Wai-diet lifestyle since I was little. As for me being on the diet, I am both ecstatic to have found a more healthy approach in treating acne that addresses the root of the problem and, at the same time, bewildered in my struggles to make it through the day surrounded with savory aromas of delicious cooked food but with a bowl of cucumber-avocado-tomato salad drenced in olive oil in front of me instead. Please don't get me wrong. I'm merely stating my own private struggle. I know that the benefits of the diet far outweigh the effects of not being on it. I'm just having a difficult time. Thanks for your patience! moi, (still) sunny
RRM 11-06-2002 03:33 PM	Dear Sunny, Maybe it helps knowing that it is equally a struggle for many of us. the good thing though, is that this struggle will be less and less hard the longer you are on this diet. VERY importantly: don't beat yourself up for eating bad foods. You did it, and there is noting bad about it. You choose to maintain this diet, and sometimes you chose not to, even if that means haveing to face the consequences. What is bad about that? The good thing is that you have been maintaining the diet so perfectly for so long. Be proud of that. Be proud of your willpower to maintain such a rigid diet. And, another thing: you can always start again. Nothing is lost!!! You have PLENTY of time... And... when you start again, be prepared that you will, at some point, probably cheat again. Be prepared for that, and don't be sorry! Just keep in mind that every day that you succeed in following the diet, is an achievement. And when you cheat, hey, there is always a tomorrow!!! quote: What is Wai's ethnic background, then? Wai is a real cocktail; Her mother is partially Caribbean (black), German and Jewish. Her father was partially Chinese-Surinam, French-Cherokee and Italian-Somali/Arab. I think that "Kalahari Sand" is a good description of her skin color. quote: I've been having a hard time finding a foundation that matches my complexion. I'm Asian but I don't exactly have a yellow skin tone nor a pink one. I have asked Wai, she says that you have an IVORY-based skin tone, and that Chanel, Estee Lauder and Gurlain have a ivory tone based foundation. Did you try Shiseido or Nouba?
sunny 11-14-2002 09:12 PM	quote: Originally posted by ReformedRobotMan: Maybe it helps knowing that it is equally a struggle for many of us. the good thing though, is that this struggle will be less and less hard the longer you are on this diet. VERY importantly: don't beat yourself up for eating bad foods. You did it, and there is noting bad about it. Hi! That's why I feel so blessed to have found this website. Not only does it offer a safe and healthy alternative to treating acne, it also provides a very supportive and encouraging bulletin board. Reading other people's questions, comments and results helps me a lot to hang in there. Your and Wai's insights, backed by research, are a wealth of knowledge. I really like your down to earth approach; no hype, no sensationalism, just straight out truth, relevant literature/works and researchers of others and a lot of experience. I do have a reputation for being too hard on myself. . But as you said, the longer I stick with the strict diet, the easier it becomes. I'm beginning to experience this. It is becoming easier for me to prep my mind that at a particular time/time period, I need to slip back into my safe haven that is the Wai-diet--this is after eating some bad foods for a while. It's also amazing and inspiring that people on this board from all over the world and from different walks of life are reaching out to one another or simply just airing their querry or dilemma. That we all face the same enemy by the name of acne is no less amazing. As for my skin, my cheeks are softer but still covered with scars and hyperpigmentation. I get 2-3 bumps whenever I eat cooked and prepared foods. When I do eat non-Wai-diet food, I stay away from any kind of cooked meat. I have weakness for pasta, bread, potato chips (no hydrogenated oils)and chocolate (no hydrogenated oils)so I munch these. And when I do, I could feel my body craving for fruits, raw egg yolks and some olive oil. It's almost as if my body talks to me, telling me to stop eating the junk food. I don't feel satiated from eating cooked and prepared foods anymore. Amazing! I may have to look into my hormones. My worst break-outs happen during Pre-menstruation period. My face bloats (I look like a balloon) and spots just appear everywhere. The strict diet can only do so much when I'm PMS-ing. This may also be due to the fact that I did eat quite a lot of munch foods ( I tend to crave for something salty then something sweet like chocolate when it's that time of the month, just as the book says). So, next month, I'm going to do an experiment. Just when PMS is around the corner, I will once again indulge myself with the Wai-diet. It's going to be tough but it will be the only way I can ever be certain. quote: I have asked Wai, she says that you have an IVORY-based skin tone, and that Chanel, Estee Lauder and Gurlain have a ivory tone based foundation. Did you try Shiseido or Nouba? Thank you for letting me know about the Ivory skin tone. Hmmmm, isn't that for fair people? I'm not fair as in white but I used to use this Shiseido shade that I believe was an Ivory 4 but stopped when I broke out thinking that it was the cause (the break out was actually due to the end of taking Minocycline) and it was a little bit too pink for me anyway. I'm now using Jane Iredale pure pressed powder that is really lightweight on the skin but makes my wallet a lot lighter too (hee-hee). The shade is a little too light and really for obviously yellow skin-toned people. My skin tone seems to change with the season. My face turns chalky with hints of pink,that is, my cheeks and nose turn pink, when I'm out in the cold of fall or winter. When summer comes, I'm yellowish gold. quote: Wai is a real cocktail; Her mother is partially Caribbean (black), German and Jewish. Her father was partially Chinese-Surinam, French-Cherokee and Italian-Somali/Arab. Impressive. That pretty much sums up the whole globe. And explains her exotic features. Well, I think I've exhausted my reply and your patience with this post. Just want to add a big thank you for tirelessly and meticulously attending to our myriad of questions, comments and individual quirks. moi, sunny
sunny 11-14-2002 09:17 PM	Hi! I don't think I'm doing the quotes right. I'm sorry.... I hope it still makes sense, though. Thank you, sunny
RRM 11-15-2002 10:45 AM	Hi Sunny, I've corrected the quotes for you. quote: It's also amazing and inspiring that people on this board from all over the world and from different walks of life are reaching out to one another or simply just airing their querry or dilemma. That we all face the same enemy by the name of acne is no less amazing. Exactly, and, to Wai and me, that is inspiring indeed. And to me it seems that just sharing your experiences with others that have similar experiences, sometimes from very different backgrounds, helps us to see things in perspective. - that you are not alone - that you can actually do something about it - that it isn't easy - that there are lots of holes in the road - that it can be rewarding quote: As for my skin, my cheeks are softer but still covered with scars and hyperpigmentation. That is where you need to give your skin the time; the time to recover by itself. You need to burden it with as little toxins as possible, you need to supply your skin with all the nutrients that it needs, and you need to leave your skin alone. Your skin can heal perfectly, if the conditions are right. quote: It's almost as if my body talks to me, ... Aaahh, great! That is exactly what your body does; there are dozens of 'messenger-substances' in your body that report about how it is doing. SoAll you need, is to be willing to listen to what your body says. To exactly understand what it says is then just a matter of learning and time. quote: I may have to look into my hormones. My worst break-outs happen during Pre-menstruation period. My face bloats (I look like a balloon) and spots just appear everywhere. That is when the levels of estrogen and progesterone peak. Progesterone stimulates the production of sebum, and estrogen can cause water retention. quote: I'm going to do an experiment. Just when PMS is around the corner, I will once again indulge myself with the Wai-diet. It's going to be tough but it will be the only way I can ever be certain. PLEASE keep us updated, okay? quote: Thank you for letting me know about the Ivory skin tone. Hmmmm, isn't that for fair people? I asked Wai, and she said: No, the basic colours in white people are pink, peach, champaign, yellow and even green. Ivory is only for the white skin complexion that has no red veins or other different colorisations; it's VERY rare. Asian people can use ivory, but in what combination (with other colours) totally depends on what your 'under colours' are (the mixture with other races). The basic colours in black people's skin are yellow, green, red and pink. You need to go to the shops and try different colours: The inside of your under-arm (from elbow to hand) is almost identical to the colour of your face. So, that is a good place to try different foundations. Once you put some on, and you like it, then your next step is to put it right under the cheekline (If you have make up on). And if you still don't trust it, and are not sure, let them give you a sample of it, so that you can try it at home. quote: I used to use this Shiseido shade that I believe was an Ivory 4 ... it was a little bit too pink for me anyway. Then there simply was to much pink in this foundation, and thus you may need a foundation with less pink, and more ivory in it (or a mixture of ivory with yellow, or even red or green) quote: My skin tone seems to change with the season. My face turns chalky with hints of pink,that is, my cheeks and nose turn pink, when I'm out in the cold of fall or winter. When summer comes, I'm yellowish gold. Yes, that actually goes for all of us, but not everybody notices quote: Well, I think I've exhausted my reply and your patience with this post. oh, no you didn't! quote: Just want to add a big thank you for tirelessly and meticulously attending to our myriad of questions, comments and individual quirks. Thank YOU for your contribution to this 'library' that will help other people to understand how to deal with this diet! All the questions, comments and quirks (never heard of that one before) are information for other people