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| knottedstring 09-24-2002 09:30 AM | I have tried the sample diet ( without the eggs and shushi, since I am vegetarian). It does get rid of the acne and no new ones pop up. BUT, it doesnt seem to help the scars/marks previously caused by acne. I have read at various web sites that aloe seems to help remove scars.. Would you happen to know how to get rid of the marks/scars and get a flawless complexion.. The marks/scars are not from very old acne. Its from acne about 6-8 months old.. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated... Has anyone tried cucumber or mint or any other such home remedy?? Please provide feedback.. |
| Wai 09-25-2002 10:18 AM | quote:how bad was your acne? (how many zits a day / week?) quote:The only thing/one that can heal your scars, is your skin. In some this happens only very slowly, while in others much faster. What you should not do, is speed up this healing process. This because the healing is a finely coordinated process, and by speeding it up, the coordination may be less perfect, and thus cause poor healing; scars. Scars that are less than one year old, are certainly not healed yet. It can take many years. Don't rush it, and just make sure to leave your face alone, and don't push it. quote:Lots of products are claimed to remove scars, but no product can. It is not that your skin does not want to do the job and needs some encouragement. Your skin is doing what it can, and pushing it, will only imbalance this healing process. You may speed it up, but the end results will be worse. quote:Make sure not the re-inflammate it, by maintaining the right diet for you. Make sure not to speed up the healing process in any way. Supply your skin with all essential nutrients without supplementing. Try to safe your skin from all toxins present in foods and skin care products, as much as possible. Since your scars are young, you should DEFINITELY do nothing that may impair the healing process. |
| knottedstring 09-26-2002 09:37 AM | quote:My acne wasnt very bad to begin with. But this year it has been worrisome. And the only singular thing that might have triggered it off is going to a Thai restaurant and eating an extremely oily veg roll there.. Ever since then I have had this red marks and cysts on my cheeks and jaw lines. Then I read ( actually paid a princely sum of $12.50 for it) that one should do NOTHING to heal acne. Just do a hot towel compress and dont touch the face as much as possible. I did see a slight improvement, but not to extent that would convince me that it was the way to go. Then I came across your web site and it made sense that what you eat affects how you look. and so I tried your diet. I do see that with this diet, no new acne comes up, but it does not help the scars from the old acne.. I guess I just have to be patient! But my family (brother, sister-in-law, mom) think that I am being too drastic and not eating right, by surviving on fruits and nuts and salads! They dont encourage me! So after a week of the diet, I am back to eating the regular food ![[Frown]](../frown.gif) And being a vegetarian means that I cant get enough nourishment from fruits, nuts, salads.. ( Also this is an expensive diet, but I dont mind that) I shall follow your advice an leave my face alone to heal on its own... Thanks for replying.. |
| Wai 09-26-2002 12:00 PM | quote:well, they ARE right about that; you do need nutrients that are not present in vegatble food, such as good cholesterol, vitamin B12, vitamin D, and also specific omega 3 fats. quote:Too bad that you had to go back on a normal diet; now you will probably get new acne again, and old spots may re-inflammate, which may cause lasting scars. ![[Mad]](../mad.gif) If only you could eat some fresh raw animal food, then you could show your family the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that you are absorbing all nutrients that you need... ![[Confused]](../confused.gif) |
| knottedstring 09-26-2002 01:49 PM | I have never eaten fish/meat/egg in my life!! And I dont want to become a carnivore now!! |
| Wai 09-27-2002 01:00 AM | I'm sorry, I respect that of course! BTW ; Even cows ingest insects by eating grass, and elephants by eating leaves (and caterpillars etc.), but that doesn't make them carnivores; they still remain herbivores for consuming predominantly vegetable food. We consume predominantly fruits and nuts, and eating a bit of raw fish / egg yolks does not make us carnivores either (but omnivores). |
| knottedstring 10-02-2002 08:46 AM | It is a matter of choice/beliefs/faith/etc... Since I have never eaten meat in my life, I just cant bring myself to eat it now. Also, I wonder if my body would be able to handle it. Maybe I cant digest it. anyway, that is hypothetical... unless of course I decide to participate in the next edition of SURVIVOR!!! which I dont intend to!! |
| Wai 10-03-2002 09:56 AM | quote:Of course it would; your digestive system has not changed; it is not that you lack certains enzymes now. But, of course, I respect your choices. |
| Vanessa 05-25-2003 12:13 PM | Wai, Do you mean that products that are supposed to 'heal scars' like Maderma would aggravate the problem? I was just about to purchase it to try to get rid of my stretch marks (on upper thighs and buttocks). What should I do? Thanks |
| Wai 05-25-2003 12:16 PM | i guess you are responding to me remarks that products that are meant to 'heal scars', actually accelerate the renewal of skin cells. and that if this renewal process is a bit less coordinated, lasting scars originate. so, you better allow your skin to heal naturally, which ensures optimum coordination of the recovery process. i don't know the active ingredients in Mederma, so I don't know its effects, but, yes, the essence of such products, is to 'speed up' the recovery process. if your skin is recovering from a (acne) wound, applying such a product may very well have detrimental effects, causing nasty scars. do you know its ingredients? we need to know to be able to judge its effects. scars from acne are very different than stretchmarks. stretchmarks are irreversible; take a plastic bag, and rip a 'scar' in the plastic with the use of your nail. the result will be similar to a stretchmark in your skin; its not just a cut or hole that needs to be repaired, no, the structure of a few inches of skin is altered, which is irreversible. acne wounds can heal perfectly nice because such a wound is just like wound, where all the old cells need to be replaced by new ones to restore its old structure, because that wound is still embedded in an intact piece of skin. What many people with acne call scars, are often actually wounds that still need repairing; these 'scars' will fade away almost totally, eventually. stretchmarks will not fade away. and no product can restore that piece of skin, because no product can make the skin retake its original structure. try to repair the plastic which your ripped with your fingernail, and you will see that it is impossible. a cut in the plastic could be repaired with the use of heat, but not such a 'stretchmark'. but if you make your skin very healthy and vibrant, and if you can tone the muscles underneath, the stretchmarks don't have to be ugly at all. |
| Vanessa 05-25-2003 12:17 PM | Sorry, I don't have the ingredients. Thanks for helping me not make yet another foolish purchase. I guess I'm gonna learn to celebrate my stretch marks instead of hating them now. Take care Wai! |
| sammyboy 05-25-2003 12:19 PM | ingredients for mederma: water(purified) ,PEG-4, onion (allium cepa ) extract , xanthan gum , allantoin , fragrance , methylparaben , sorbic acid. ![[Smile]](../smile.gif) |
| Wai 05-25-2003 12:21 PM | thank you hmmm, and now please read what is written about these ingredients: http://www.3.waisays.com/skincare.htm |
| PhiVan 05-25-2003 12:22 PM | I found this cream in the healthfood store i usually go to. it's called "Hypercal Cream" for cuts & sores. And here is its ingredients: Hypercium perforatum Calendula officinalis almond oil avocado oil Cocoa butter I was wondering if it's okay to apply this cream to zits that i've 'squeezed' to help it heal. |
| PhiVan 05-25-2003 12:22 PM | Also, is there any way i can take the redness out of the pimples...it's annoying! I've heard people applying eyes drop to the pimple to reduce redness, but i don't want to take a chance and irritate my skin so i was wonderng what's your opinion on that? ![[Roll Eyes]](../rolleyes.gif) . |
| Wai 05-25-2003 12:26 PM | quote:please read this thread; you shouldnt 'help it heal', because that means that the product contains ingredients that speed up the healing process, which means that the healing will be less perfectly coordinated, which may lead to blurry scars... quote:yes, be patient, that is all anything else may have adverse effects |