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acneprone 07-26-2002 12:25 PM	In your sample diet, you stated using low mineral water such as volvic to wash face. Is this really essential? I can't imagine this actually making a difference. I would like to hear from Wai as well as other people. thanks!
Wai 07-26-2002 01:19 PM	quote: In your sample diet, you stated using low mineral water such as volvic to wash face. Is this really essential? I can't imagine this actually making a difference. Especially tap water and high mineral water can dehydrate the outer skin. The body may counteract this by increasing the producion of sebum, since sebum (like oil) prevents dehydration of the outer skin. And an increased production of sebum aggravates your acne. Washing your face with tap water may not be a problem in you; we just advise not to do so because the Sample Diet is an elimination diet, which is about eliminating all possible causes. If it does not aggravate your acne, go ahead!
SK2RF2CE 07-27-2002 01:55 PM	I feel that tap water does dry out my face. Like every time I rinse or take a shower, I feel clean but my face is tight and dry afterwards and after a few hours it gets oily. So I am trying to find something that wont dry out my face. Wai are any bottled water ok? I cant find Volvic here in Toronto. But we do have evian, mount clair, crystal springs. Thanks Wai.
Wai 07-28-2002 12:05 PM	Hi, and welcome! quote: Wai are any bottled water ok? I cant find Volvic here in Toronto. But we do have evian, mount clair, crystal springs. Don't they sell El Dorado or Montcalm in Toronto? What levels of sodium (Na), potassium (K) and chloride (Cl) do Evian, Mount clair or Crystal Springs contain? What also helps to counteract the dehydration of your skin is applying one or 2 drops of oil on your skin (when the skin is still a bit moist). Every skin reacts differently on different oils, so start out carefully.
Vanessa 08-03-2002 02:55 AM	Hi Wai, I live in Montreal and we, as well, don't have El Dorado, Montcalm or Volvic available. I have no idea why... I've bought this 4L bottle of natural spring water from my supermarket. The label says 'OZONATED'(what does that mean?), dissolved mineral salts:106 p.p.m., fluoride ions: 0 p.p.m., non carbonated, sodium-free (quote: *products containing less than 5mg. sodium per 100ml are permitted to state "sodium-free"). Cl: 2 p.p.m. K: 1 p.p.m. Na: 12 p.p.m. (3mg. per cup) Potassium: 0.3mg. per cup Could you please tell me if that water is o.k. according to your standards? Thanks a lot
Wai 08-04-2002 03:10 PM	quote: Vanessa wrote The label says 'OZONATED'(what does that mean?) I don't know. Anybody? quote: Cl: 2 p.p.m. K: 1 p.p.m. Na: 12 p.p.m. (3mg. per cup) Potassium: 0.3mg. per cup Could you please tell me if that water is o.k. according to your standards? 1 cup is about 238 ml, right? So, the contents are about: Cl: 2.5 mg / L K: 1.2 mg / L Na: 12.6 mg / L In comparison, the contents of Montcalm: Cl: 0.6 mg / L K: 0.4 mg / L Na: 1.5 mg / L So, the mineral contents are not very low in your water, but they are not very high either. Sodium contents are a bit high. It may be okay, but maybe you can find another low-mineral water? BTW, what are the calcium contents?
Vanessa 08-04-2002 05:07 PM	Wai, The calcium (Ca) content is 17 p.p.m. By the way, how can they claim their water is sodium-free if you say it`s a bit high? Thanks
bk 08-04-2002 09:16 PM	quote: The label says 'OZONATED'(what does that mean?) In brief (from my limited knowledge): Ozonation is a process for treating water through oxidation. (Ozone is O3, an unstable molecule consisting of 3 Oxygen atoms.) It's used in situations Chlorine would be used, but it supposedly better as it oxidizes faster and doesn't have hazardous by-products (it creates Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide, I believe). It also breaks down into O2.
Wai 08-06-2002 12:48 PM	quote: Originally posted by Vanessa: Sorry about that last post everyone... Please ignore it. I guess I`m still trying to figure out how to work the quoting system (still new at this). If you want to respond to a specific line in my post, just click on the "" icon on top of my post. (the one that says "reply with a quote" when you hold your pointer there) The box where you normally type your response, is now already filled with text; my post, but it starts with "[ quote ] originally posted by Wai [QB]" and ends with "[ / QB ][ / quote ]" Then you only need to remove all the text written by me, except for the lines that you want to reply to. Then you type your response (AFTER the last [ / quote ] ), and press the "add reply" button. quote: The calcium (Ca) content is 17 p.p.m. Ah, that is great. quote: By the way, how can they claim their water is sodium-free if you say it`s a bit high? Because the contents meet THEIR definition of sodium free. If I say that my definition of sodium free means any level below 1,000 mg / L, I can claim that a certain water is sodium free if it contains 900 mg / L. That water is not high in sodium if you compare it with standard mineral waters, but if you compare it with a low mineral water like Montcalm, it is a bit high. Though it may be totally harmless for you!!!
Wai 08-06-2002 12:57 PM	quote: [Originally posted by Brian Ozonation is a process for treating water through oxidation. (Ozone is O3, an unstable molecule consisting of 3 Oxygen atoms.) It's used in situations Chlorine would be used, but it supposedly better as it oxidizes faster and doesn't have hazardous by-products (it creates Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide, I believe). It also breaks down into O2. Thank you Brian. Vanessa; That process has no negative influence regarding acne, since there is no protein in acne, and thus the 'oxidation' cannot originate 'dirty' protein.
Vanessa 08-08-2002 04:48 PM	Cool!!! And thanks for the help Brian! Well Wai, at least I'm happy the calcium content satisfied you. But I'll keep looking for a water with less minerals.
Vanessa 08-13-2002 10:18 PM	Wai, What about distilled water?
20withacne 09-12-2002 11:40 AM	When on the diet what can I was my face with? Is it ok to continue with phisoderm? or can i only use bottled water? Also, can I drink Britta water while on the diet?
Wai 09-12-2002 11:49 AM	quote: When on the diet what can I was my face with? As you can read in this thread, with low-mineral bottled water, such as Volvic, El Dorado, Montcalm, Aytaç etc. quote: Is it ok to continue with phisoderm? or can i only use bottled water? what is phisoderm? What matters are the mineral contents. For comparison, here are the mineral contents of Montcalm, which is a low-mineral bottled water (1 cup is about 238 ml. 1 L is 1,000 ml): Na: 1.5 mg / L (sodium = natrium) Cl: 0.6 mg / L (chloride) K: 0.4 mg / L (potassium = kalium) Ca: 3 mg / L (calcium) Mg: 0.6 mg / L (magnesium) bicarbonates: 5 mg / L sulphates: 7 mg / L quote: Also, can I drink Britta water while on the diet? For drinking water the same rules apply as to the water that you use to clean your skin. What are its mineral contents?
Azure 09-15-2002 02:24 PM	Miss Wai, You recommend using Volvic water due to its low mineral content. Well, I went on to the PolandSpring website and it seems that the mineral content in Poland Spring is even lower. Here is the mineral table for each water: Volvic: Calcium 10 Magnesium 6 Sodium 9 Potassium 6 Bicarbonates 65 Sulfates 7 Chlorides 8 Nitrates (N) 1 Silica 30 Neutrally Balanced pH: 7.0 TDS @ 180°C: 109 Poland Spring: Bicarbonates 14 Chloride 5.3 Sulfate 3.2 Calcium 5.3 Magnesium 0.9 Potassium 0.7 Sodium 2.1 Total Dissolved Solids 45 PH 6.6 Furthermore, Volvic comes from a volcanic region in France and is known for its high mineral content. So then do you think that Poland Spring is better while on this diet? Thanks. . THIS THREAD CONTAINS MORE THAN 1 PAGE >>>
Wai 09-15-2002 02:33 PM	Thank you very much Azure! Volvic is not at all a high-mineral water (in comparison with most other waters), but yes, Poland spring's contents are better! So, In my advice, I will replace Volvic with Poland spring. BTW, Montcalm is even better! (check out the contents in previous posts) PS: Are you sure the contents of Poland's spring water are listed per liter (L) ?
Azure 09-17-2002 10:17 AM	Miss Wai: I have started washing my face with PolandSpring water instead of tap water last night and to my amazement my skin is much more dry and tight then it was when washed with tap water. What can this be? Should I still continue washing with PolandSrping? Thanks.
Wai 09-17-2002 10:20 AM	hmmm, maybe you can keep on continuing it for a few more days, to see twhat the eventual effects are?
monica 09-18-2002 12:09 PM	I compared the levels of minerals with Volvic and they were actually lower in the Crystal Geyser! Please, anyone, do verify this.
Scott 10-07-2002 11:02 PM	quote: Originally posted by Vanessa: What about distilled water? The distillation process removes minerals in addition to bacteria; distilled water is essentially mineral-free. If this is the case, then it's probably more well-suited to our purposes than the 'designer' bottled waters that Wai recommends, not to mention a heck of a lot cheaper and easier for people to find. We need to distinguishing between distillers and filters. Filters remove contaminants from water, distillers remove water from contaminants. Some filters are better than others at purifying water. But all distillers, in terms of removing minerals and other contaminants from water, are basically equal. This is because they operate by boiling water, capturing it as steam, and then re-condensing it. The distillation process separates water from any minerals that have a greater boiling point than water. (All minerals except chloride) I found a very brief page that describes the different water purification techniques and offers a consumer guide to water distillers. Water Distillers
Wai 10-08-2002 01:07 AM	Thank you Scott! Maybe you can find us the perfect distiller that sufficiently removes all the salts / minerals and metals?
Scott 10-08-2002 09:27 PM	I will try to put some research together on affordable distillers. Distilled water is actually pretty cheap and easy to find in grocery stores. The problem is that, like all bottled waters, it is stored in plastic containers. Too bad.
makodancer 01-21-2003 02:35 PM	We buy 18L bottles of "Crystal Springs" water to drink. I'm wondering if i can use this water on my face too? There isn't very much information on the label. The ingredient list only reads: spring water, ozone (BTW what is ozone?) But further down on the label it says mineral salts: 310 PPM. (PPM?) Does this tell me anything?
Wai 01-21-2003 02:48 PM	quote: Makodancer wrote: what is ozone? Brian wrote this: quote: Ozonation is a process for treating water through oxidation. (Ozone is O3, an unstable molecule consisting of 3 Oxygen atoms.) It's used in situations Chlorine would be used, but it supposedly better as it oxidizes faster and doesn't have hazardous by-products (it creates Oxygen and Carbon Dioxide, I believe). It also breaks down into O2. quote: Makodancer wrote: on the label it says mineral salts: 310 PPM. (PPM?) Does this tell me anything? no, it doesn't; you need to know how much of sodium (Na), potassium (K), chloride (Cl) and calcium (Ca) it specifically contains. You can ask the manufacturer. (they must have a website)
SB 04-13-2003 03:47 PM	What about water that has been filtered through reverse osmosis? I have read that this system gets rid of about 96% of all minerals and almost 100% of all toxins (heavy metals, pesticides, parasites, etc) that tapwater may contain. Does this mean it is low mineral water? They say when you compare it to distilled water it is just a little less pure, but almost as good. (unfortunately I cannot find distilled drinking water). Anyaway, it is a lot cheaper then bottled water and it does not contain any harmfull toxins that bottled water may contain (like propyl alcohol or wood alcohol).
Wai 04-18-2003 02:53 PM	yes, that seems perfectly acceptable
lydia 05-16-2003 11:53 AM	I live in singapore ATM, and have never heard of Volvic or any of the other types of water u mentioned. How about oxygenated water? It has no minerals.
Wai 05-16-2003 11:54 AM	i understood that it is very low in minerals, which is okay indeed