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AuthorTopic: Day 9 ; frustrated...
Chris10astra
10-08-2002
08:07 PM
Today is my 9th day of the 14 day sample diet. I am not noticing a big difference in my skin. The only things I can think of as problems would be a)the lack of fats on Sat to even out blood sugar, b)cherry tomatoes with the skin still on, and c)habit of picking/squeezing skin. Other than that I've followed the diet very well- I expected to see more of a change as I thought diet was such an influential variable affecting skin condition. I think I'll extend the diet so it ends up being 17 days (because I have to go to an important dinner that night- the food served will be pasta) and hope for more of a change.
Scott
10-08-2002
09:41 PM
How are you washing your face? Do you apply any topical acne medication? I was following the diet very strictly and still developing new skin problems. But as soon as I stopped using soap and oxy 10, (and for some reason, I was very hesitant to give these up), my skin began healing very quickly. I don't know if this applies to you, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
hollywood
10-08-2002
09:51 PM
Chris10astra i also didnt see drastic change in the sample diet at first because i was not doing it correctly. i recognized that even the slightest bit of cheating throws everything off. then you must start over again..which sucked. If you think you may be cheating too often then i suggest starting over and being 100% strict the second go round. if this is not the case for oyu and you know you've followed it correctly, the acne may be 100% hormonal which Wai claims cant be altered by the diet.

And by the way. of your 3 reasons, the biggest killer is by far the picking. no question about it. many times ill get little bumps that i cause myself by irritating the skin when i touch my face. i still do that to this day. its a big pain in the ass. just try your best to not pick, thats all.
Chris10astra
10-09-2002
08:06 AM
Thanks for the replies, but no I haven't cheated and I only wash my face with water, sometimes with gentle soap in the shower (rare). I think if I stop picking and let my skin heal, and stay on the sample diet, I'll be fine. I am seeing some changes, just not big ones.
Wai
10-10-2002
06:54 AM
As long as there is improvement, you are doing okay. Please stop the picking; its devastating, especially now that your skin contains less water; it's less án 'elephant skin' now, and much more susceptible to the skin, since not protected by the excessive water anymore (as an airbag is protective).
Also make sure to eat fat with / after every meal from now on!

BTW; there is a very small possibility that your body cannot properly digest Brazil nut protein; in a small group of people this is the case, and some of these therefore diplay allergic-like reactions to eating brazil nuts. In its mildest form, this may result in acne in those that produce much sebum (which is the case in all acne patients).
In case you are one of those people, you have a problem, since you are vegan (the Brazil nuts are essential if you don't eat any animal food).
Maybe you are open to the idea of experimenting with egg yolks instead of Brazil nuts?

Which makes me think: do you take B12 supplements?
Chris10astra
10-10-2002
07:46 AM
Okay, if I have gone this far w/o cheating, etc my next goal is to stop picking..very bad habit.
I think if I get some avocados I'll have a better chance of staying away from those nuts. I only need a handful a day, not the amounts I've been eating. The selenium toxicity worries me.
Fat after every meal, check.
My skin looks much better this morning. I don't blame the diet for any problems I have but I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Yesterday was another day I didn't have much access to fat and I had sooo much fruit instead of the satisfaction fruit+fat gives me. I know better now.
Chris10astra
10-10-2002
07:50 AM
Oh, yes I take B12 supplements. I'm not crazy about them and I've read literature suggesting that if a vegan has eaten meat before becoming vegan they have a B12 store for up to 25 years, so I'm not really worried.
I am open to trying raw eggs but it's really weird to think about eating then after so long w/o them. If I were to eat a few a week would that be ok? I could get some organic/free range ones I think. Would it be alright to mix them with avacado or olive oil for salad dressing?
Wai
10-10-2002
08:59 AM
quote:
If I were to eat a few a week would that be ok?
Absolutely. The RDA's for B12 are unrealistic when taking into account all thos begans that never supplement; it is speculated that even the B12 present in the feces of insects etc on poorly washed veggies provides us with sufficient B12.
So, yes, eating a few a week would certainly be enough to supply you with the required B12.
Your body will love the good cholesterol by the way...

quote:
Would it be alright to mix them with avacado or olive oil for salad dressing?
Egg yolk with avocado is perfect, and delicious.
Egg yolk mixed in orange juice is alo great.
Yolks and salad is a less perfect combination, regarding digestion.
Chris10astra
10-12-2002
12:19 PM
I eat egg yolks now.
My skin is better, at least on my face. I have made a great effort to quit picking/popping and have mostly succeeded. I still scratch a little but I can feel the habit melting away. My neck is still a bit spotty but I figure it'll straighten out too.
I'm surprised at how well I've kept this diet. Everyday I smell pasta and the food court serves these amazing vegan dishes but I've stayed with the salad/fruit bars. I bought some vegan cookies to give my brothers this weekend and they're still unopened..big accomplishment for me.
I don't think I'll be too bad. I'm 19, my acne has always been pretty mild, I'd love to lose 10lbs (like most) and slight cellulite has been bugging me for maybe 2 years. I am very happy that I've come across the raw food diet and then this site, because the synthesis of both lifestyles is something I can live with. I'm looking forward to munch food- I don't think I could be 100% raw all of the time. But right now it's day 12 and I'm fine. I feel like I can do this.
When I was frustrated I wasn't mad at the diet because I do believe in the facts of it. I was mad at myself, and now I feel much better. I'm much better now.
Sorry for the length..in a rambling mood. [Smile]