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| Author | Topic: oils that are okay |
| riko 08-29-2002 01:26 PM | Wai, is extra virgin flaxen seed oil ok? It contains 57% of omega-3 fat acids. What about extra virgin pumpkin and sunflower seed oil? |
| Wai 08-29-2002 03:31 PM | quote:57%? seems a bit much to me...are you sure about that? where does it say so? (source?) quote:I don't know about pumpkin seed oil, but most sunflower seed oil is absolute garbage. |
| riko 08-30-2002 07:49 AM | quote:There is information that it is rich in vitamins A,E,F and vitamins from B group and 57% of omega-3 fat acids. Maybe it’s error maybe it is 5,7%. Here is the web site but it is under construction right now(www.vitalia.com.mk). I asked them on the phone but the pharmaceutic was on holiday. |
| Wai 08-31-2002 11:53 AM | quote:"vitamin F" = essential fatty acids; all fatty natural foods are rich in essential fatty acids. (fish, egg yolk, olive oil, nuts etc.) "vitamin F" is not a vitamin. Vitamin A in flaxseed oil? I doubt it, because there is NO vitamin A in flaxseeds (check The USDA Nutrient Database) Most oils are rich in vitamin E. Nuts, egg yolk, avocado with fruits already supply you with all the vitamin E (and B vitamins) you need. According to the USDA, the contents of the omega 3 fats 20:3, 22:5 and 22:6 are all 0 (zero); only the contents of linolenic acid (also an omega 3 fat; 18:3) is indeed extremely high.(click on the "report" button Check out this thread. (Edited by RRM:) Also, it appears that flaxseed (linseed) by nature contains high levels of phyto-estrogens (enterolactone and enterodiol) which interfere with your natural hormone metabolism. So, I strongly recommend not consuming flaxseed / linseed oil. |
| riko 09-03-2002 10:44 AM | What about extra virgine sesame seed oil? Is it quality? |
| Wai 09-03-2002 11:05 AM | quote:Yes, it's quality is better than that of most commercial oils. And it's average vitamin E contents (listed below in mg vitamin E activity per 100 gram) are not too high either (the less vitamin E, the better for your skin, when used on your face): 1.1 Cocoa butter 2.1 Coconut oil 3.3 Walnut oil 3.5 Sesame seed oil 5.8 Linseed oil 9.5 Palm oil 10.3 Peanut oil 12.1 Olive oil 17.0 Soybean oil 33.8 Maize oil 38.3 Cotton seed oil 39.3 Almond oil 47.2 Hazelnut oil 62.5 Sunflower oil 174.5 Wheat germ oil (Not that I'm advising to smear cocoa butter on your face) |
| Azure 09-17-2002 09:54 AM | Miss Wai: I have been hearing lots of rave reviews about the antibacterial and antioxidant properties of oregano oil. There is also concern out there that eating lots of fruits (especially dried fruits) can lead to an overgrowth of Candida. Some people also believe that too much Candida can lead to acne as it produces many toxins in your body. So I was wondering if supplementing your sample diet with oregano oil is ok? It is beneficial in controlling Candida and parasites. If you don't think its ok, I won't take it - as I would rather have Candida and parasites then acne. Thanks for your help. |
| Azure 09-17-2002 09:54 AM | Also, since there is a small risk of getting parasites from raw fish, Oregano oil seems like a wise addition to this diet. |
| Wai 09-17-2002 09:56 AM | quote:Our colon contains over 400 known bacteria that are essential to our defense system. Without them, you cannot live. Anti-bacterial substances don't know the difference between good and bad bacteria; they kill all, and thus, ingesting substances with anti-bacterial properties, may weaken your defense. Also, substances with anti-bacterial properties, in general have mild toxic properties; otherwise, they cannot kill. Substances with toxic properties also destroy healthy cells in our body. Don't think that it is good because it is natural / plant based; nature contains en extreme variety of natural toxins in plants, which is not harmful to animals specialized in consuming these plants, but which is harmful to animals that are not. quote:No, that is impossible. Canadida is caused by anti-biotics that impair the natural balance of bacteria in your colon, which may lead to candida overgrowth. Please check out this thread: link Yes, candida needs sugars to grow, but the sugars are certainly not the cause. Just as if a playing child is killed by a speeding car, it is not the fault of the gas that the car needs to function. quote:Wow, both candida AND parasites? Then it really must have toxic / mutagenic properties... What substances does it contain that have these properties? You need to know that to be able to judge to what extend it is harmful. (just as you need to know the contents of the drugs that you are prescribed by the Dr, and their possible side effects, before you actually take them) quote:If you want to exclude that small possibility, you better consume fresh raw tuna or fresh raw egg yolks, which never contain parasites. |
| etwald 09-17-2002 10:24 AM | A small note about vegetable oils: Conclusion: Most vegetable oils should be avoided as they suppress cell-mediated immunity (CMI), the exception are those vegetable oils high in monounsaturated fatty acids like extra virgin olive oil, hazelnut oil etc. Almond, avocado or peanut oil are also high in monounsaturated oils and could safely be used in moderation From: A Consumer’s Guide to Immune Restoration To my knowledge, the healthiest oils and fats are: * Butter * Coconut oil * Olive oil Except for olive oil, most vegetable oils are very unhealthy (to eat). Ed, The Netherlands |
| etwald 09-17-2002 10:31 AM | Another interesting article on this topic: "An excess of the polyunsaturated fats (PUFA's) is central to the development of degenerative diseases: cancer, heart disease, arthritis, immunodeficiency, diabetes, hypertension, osteoporosis, connective tissue disease, and calcification." (Peat) From: Unsaturated Fats by Lita Lee, Ph.D. Oh, I forgot one good fat in the good-fat-list: All saturated animal fat is also very good. Please note that fats from pastured animals is different from fats from junk-fed animals. Pastured beef meat contains lots of Omega3 fatty acids, just like organic fish does. Wai, Is this compatible with your ideas ? Ed, The Netherlands |
| Wai 09-17-2002 11:25 AM | quote:It is a bit generalizing (and may exclude some good oils too), but yes, I agree that a too high level of polyunsaturated fats (as in flax seed oil) may have adverse effects. I also think that most vegetable fats could never be consumed in their raw form until we knew how to distract them from these plants, and therefore are, originally unnatural to consume for us. They may contain phyto-chemicals and weird fat ratios that may be harmful to us. (I think that they best are not consumed until we KNOW that they are harmless) quote:not necessarily, at all. Fatty cooked animal foods high in saturated fats may also be high in harmful trans fatty acids... quote:I think that is an oversimplification, and in some cases untrue. quote:This, I will answer here. |
| Azure 09-18-2002 01:34 PM | Dear Miss Wai: I got the following from the internet on Oregano oil: "Oil of oregano is a potent germ killer. Jean Valnet, in his book The Practice of Aromatherapy, describes how the oil of oregano is so strong that it is capable of sterilizing sewage. Research published in the International Journal of Food Microbiology, found that oil of oregano is an excellent germicide capable of killing a wide range of fungi and bacteria. According to the Journal of Applied Nutrition, oil of oregano is highly effective for killing candida. Researchers in Mexico found it possesses strong antiparasitic actions, especially against Giardia. It has also been proven to help with asthma, chronic bronchitis, colds, digestion problems, flu, mental disease, whooping cough, pulmonary tuberculosis, pneumonia, warts, muscular pain, and arthritis, just to name a few." - and - "Oil of Oregano is also a powerfid painkiller. An article published in Phytotherapy Research describes how oregano oil superceded anti-inflammatory drugs in reversing pain and inflammation and is nearly as powerful as morphine as a painkiller. As published by Sarer, researchers describe its antiseptic powers as ‘remarkable.’ " Also, substances such as cayenne pepper and garlic also have anti-bacterial properties but are widely accepted for being good for you. So what do you think? |
| Wai 09-19-2002 02:36 AM | quote:As I wrote earlier (go 5 posts up): "Then it really must have toxic / mutagenic properties". Is morphine a good thing to take, as normal food is eaten, because it reverses pain? Are antibiotics to be taken by healthy people, because of their anti-bacterial properties? This oil clearly has the properties of drugs, and therefore should be regarded as a drug... quote: Milk is widely accepted as being good for you, but scientific data indicates that it is not. If you want to believe that oregano oil is good for you, go ahead, but the latter argument is not convincing to me. |
| fruitfiend 09-19-2002 07:56 AM | Is unrefined safflower oil ok? The bottle says low temperatures were used. |
| Wai 09-19-2002 07:57 AM | the question is: at what temperature exactly? And how is the oil obtained? In my view, safflower oil contains too high amounts of linoleic acid (a polyunsaturated fat); 74%. |
| monica 09-19-2002 07:58 AM | what if the label says 'cold-pressed'? Does that mean anything? or 'hi-oleic' safflower or canola oil?? |
| Wai 09-19-2002 08:07 AM | Yes, 'cold pressed' is the key word. 'high-oleic' does not mean bad, at all. Oleic acid is just a (monounsaturated) fatty acid that can perfectly be processed by the body. Yes, too high amounts of unsaturated fats is not good, but in that regard you better focus on poly- instead of mono-unsaturated fats. BTW; safflower oil is not that high in oleic acid; only 11.5% (canola oil: 56.1%). If you think your oleic acid intake needs to be balanced with omega 3 fats (see this thread), then you just need to consume fresh raw fish daily too. Personally, I don't like consuming oils from foods that are not our natural foods, since they may contain phyto chemicals with adverse effects on your body. Check out this shocking info about canola oil (thank you Dawn!) |
| AussieShep 09-21-2002 08:57 AM | So what other types of Oil do you recommend or is good for consuming in this diet and what types should not be used? What is it about Olive Oil that you recommend here? Last night at the grocery I didn't know the difference between the Olive Oils. Is it just the flavor that differs between Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Regular and Extra Light ?? |
| Wai 09-21-2002 09:52 AM | quote:I recommend oil that: - is cold-pressed ('extra virgin') - comes from food that also can be digested well when consumed raw in its whole form. (ie olives, nuts) - is not too high in vitamin E, see this post quote:- Oils that are not cold pressed, because when heat has been applied, some fats are converted into harmful trans fats. When consuming mostly raw foods, you will become more sensitive to the toxins / bad substances that your food contains, because your body will then be less sedated by opioid peptides and beta-carbolines. - Oils that were originally cold-pressed, but that you have used for frying / baking; the heat damages fats. - Oils that come from foods that are not natural food for us, such as all foods that cannot be perfectly digested when consumed raw (beans, grains, most plants, many seeds). Such oils may contain phytochemicals with digestion impairing and/or toxic/mutagenic properties. - Oils that are obtained from genetically modified foods. This argument is not entirely rational, but I have the feeling that such oils in the end will appear to be bad for us. - Oils that are too high in vitamin E; excessive vitamin E impairs the natural balance of anti- and pro-oxidative substances in our body - Oils that contain extremely much polyunsaturated fats (flaxseed oil; which contains 53 to 54% linolenic acid), unless consumed in moderation quote:Olives can be consumed raw (though after having been cured, without the use of heat). Olive oil is not too high in vitamin E, and can easily be bought as 'cold pressed' oil. Coconut oil seems fine to me too. quote:No, only extra virgin is cold pressed. |
| Carolyn 10-09-2002 09:59 AM | Wai are grapeseed & oliveseed oil ok? |
| Wai 10-10-2002 07:24 AM | quote:Seeds from fruits contain toxic substances to prevent being destroyed by the consumer (or are too small, or slipery to be detroyed by chewing, like the ones in kiwis) So, I strongly recommend not to consume grapeseed oil (or olive seed oil); its phytochemicals may impair the digestion / uptake of essential nutrients. |
| lbean 10-10-2002 03:33 PM | hi wai, is the sesame oil that you mentioned to use for face, is it the same kind as the one that you use for cooking? where can i find walnut oil?, i'm searching everywhere but no luck any website i should look into? |
| Wai 10-11-2002 04:07 AM | quote:Yes, if you buy oil to use on your face, you better buy one that is made for consumption, since such oils need to comply to more rigid regulations. Make always very sure that it is COLD PRESSED (extra virgin) though!!! quote:Go to a search engine (such as www.google.com), an type in "walnut oil" and "extra virgin". http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=walnut+oil+extra+virgin |