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Sanna 08-28-2002 06:02 AM	I eat around 10 Brazil nuts (sometimes more), 1/2 dl olive oil, 1 avocado and 5 yolks daily... is this about the right amount? I can eat lots of nuts easily... I try to control myself Oh and, isn't it very important to eat fats after each time we eat fruits?
Wai 08-29-2002 08:06 AM	quote: I eat around 10 Brazil nuts (sometimes more), 1/2 dl olive oil, 1 avocado and 5 yolks daily... is this about the right amount? its perfect, though you could consume more quote: isn't it very important to eat fats after each time we eat fruits? Yes, to stabilize the blood sugar level. That is why it is so easy to make a big bottle of juice, and add some oil (and sugar) to it, so that you only need to zip from this bottle and don't need to worry about consuming the fat.
Chris10astra 10-04-2002 07:04 AM	I know that fats/sugars should balance out, but what happens if say, I eat 100g of fruit and follow it with 75g (instead of 50) fat. Will that be bad? I'm trying to stay away from the accpeted ideas of eating and diet, but when over 50% of my calories come from fat is that ok? Granted, I had absolutely NO cravings for anything but the foods allowed (I adore all of them) and the dark chocolate looked so good at the time that I took the bites (it's sitting in front of me right now but I don't want any more!)- I just hope I'm doing the right thing. Thanks
Wai 10-04-2002 07:05 AM	quote: will that be bad? No, that will not be bad. It is just that when you eat fatty food, such as salmon, you better drink some juice first because you may feel lazy if you don't; fats and protein don't make you feel energetic, unlike sugars. (because they are direct fuel for the muscles) quote: when over 50% of my calories come from fat is that ok? Absolutely. Fat does not cause acne. What is important, is whether the food is cooked or contains salt.
Carolyn 10-04-2002 01:28 PM	apart from not making the energy from your food last longer, what else can happen if you do not consume enough fat after eating fruit?
Wai 10-04-2002 02:16 PM	Your blood glucose level will fluctuate too much, which may cause acne in some acne patients, and certainly can cause moodswings, and can make you suddenly swift from feeling active to tired, or even depressed.
mengyao 01-04-2003 01:19 AM	woa. 50% calories from fat! i understand that the fat isnt harmful, but i thought the only fats we "need" are the omega 3 and 6 oils. and at 50 percent calories from fat, wouldnt we just be consuming too many EMPTY calories? i know it may not be harmful, but remember, thats a lot of empty calories.
Isis 01-04-2003 04:42 PM	I think it can be 'empty' calories because the fruits, nuts, egg yolk and raw fish are 'packed' with all the nutrients you need. The fat is an energy source and serves a great purpose (as Wai explained above). Munch foods can be 'empty' calories too, but Wai says they are useful in allowing one to stick to the diet and they can only be consumed AFTER one has eaten the nutrient-rich fruits, nuts, and raw protien. Water contains 'empty' calories (none!) but is vital to life. So you see, everything in the diet serves a valid purpose.
Wai 01-05-2003 03:57 PM	quote: i thought the only fats we "need" are the omega 3 and 6 oils. No, you also need fat for energy, and to stabilize the blood sugar level. All kinds of fatty acids are very valuable to your body. quote: and at 50 percent calories from fat, wouldnt we just be consuming too many EMPTY calories? If you are not ingesting all required nutrients, but DO ingest more than enough energy, THEN you are consuming too much 'empty calories'. So, do you consume all the nutrients you need? (Submit your diet to the nutrient calculator) 50% calories from fat can be perfect! Avocadoes, for example, and even olive oil, are NOT suppliers of 'empty' calories, but of essential nutrients (AND calories).
PhiVan 02-11-2003 11:01 AM	I've read the posting about eating too much olive oil and getting it all over your clothes. well at first, i was skeptical and wonder how much olive oil can one person eat? but i got my clothes stained today and it was one of the most the delicious meal i've ever had (tomotoes soaked in olive oil with avocados). who would have thought a natural diet can be so rich and satisfying! This goes to show that you don't have to go to Carl's JR to say "if it doesn't get all over the place, it doesn't belong in your face" Bon appetit!
engesongwok 02-25-2003 06:59 PM	OH thats great! I agree, natural foods can be VERY satisfying. Today I ate a whole avocado and 4 egg yolks, then settled down for an hour nap! Even though its natural, I think it took longer to digest and made me feel sluggish. I am not too sure about the concept of 'empty calories'. I suppose this means calories without a balance of vitamins, minerals, fiber and amino acids? To get 'empty' calories...I think you would have to include processed foods, like white sugar, white flour, shortening etc...but why would you want to do that? In my opinion these things don't taste good, aren't satisfying and are really really bad for you. If you really want to eat this stuff I suppose you could, and still be healthy, but it should make up a small portion of what you eat.
PhilosophicalAcnePatient 03-27-2003 11:01 AM	Apparently, excess fat in the diet (e.g., avocado; nuts; even unrefined, cold-pressed vegetable, nut, and seed oils) is contra-indicated for eczema patients. HELP!!!!! Philosophical Acne Patient
Wai 03-27-2003 11:14 AM	quote: excess fat in the diet (e.g., avocado; nuts; even unrefined, cold-pressed vegetable, nut, and seed oils) is contra-indicated for eczema patients bad fats (fats damaged due to the influence of heat / cooking) may indeed cause allergic like reactions / eczema, but clean / undamaged fats will not Nuts can cause allergic reactions / eczema in some (it is not the fats they contain, but specific proteins) Vegetables also contain substances that may cause allergic like reactions in some, certainly when consumed raw Make sure to consume cold pressed oil when you consume oil; it's certainly not the (good) fat that causes your eczema
mysteriouz 05-02-2003 08:13 AM	can you overeat and gain weight on oil if you keep the ratio of sugars to fat to 2:1? what if u higher the ratio of fats, can that cause you to gain weight? i ask that because oil is so easy to overeat on because 1) it has twice as much calories than carbs/proteins 2) has no fiber, so its not very filling, and 3) i could easily eat many tablespoons of oil in one sitting, which could easily higher my calorie consumption in one sitting, and cause weight gain. thank you!
she 05-02-2003 08:15 AM	Hi Wai, This is also a "fat" related isssue. Everything is still pretty new to me as this is my second week on this diet. I suspect my acne breakout in the first week is due to the lack of oil I consumed to stabalise the sugar level from the fruits. So I followed the 1g of fat for every 2 grams of sugar. Mainly using olive oil as my source of fat. However, I think it's a little "too much" fat for me. About an hour after my consumption of fruits + fat, I get nausea and I feel like vomiting. The fruits are pretty much the same compared to what I normally eat, only the uptake of oil has changed so I'm quite confident it's the fat that is causing all this unpleasant feeling. At the moment I have repulse against any fat related foods i.e. avocados, eggyolks.. oil.. I know this will eventually go away but I would like to note that it's causing stomach problems and my stool is kinda getting soft as well.. Anyhow, what do you recommend me to do? Should I spread out my uptake in fruits so I don't need to have so much fat all at once? I tried the excel spreadsheet and it says I have to have approx. 30g of fat if I had an apple and 2 pears. That's 5-6 tbs... am I doing this right? Does the ammount of fat differ between having juices and whole fruits? And one more thing, I read somewhere about problems with having avocados together with other fruits. But that's part of the salad in the "Free acne sample diet" right? So should I eat avocados after eating fruits? Because having olive oil can be quite boring sometimes.. Will look forward to your reply.. . THIS THREAD CONTAINS MORE THAN ONE PAGE
Wai 05-02-2003 08:35 AM	quote: Mysteriouz wrote: can you overeat and gain weight on oil if you keep the ratio of sugars to fat to 2:1? what if u higher the ratio of fats, can that cause you to gain weight? that depends on what foods you eat, not on the amount of fat, and not on the fat/sugar ratio naturally, your set point weight is regulated by all kind of hormones and neurotransmitters, preventing overweight. people become overweigth when this system is impaired by consuming cooked foods, which contain appetite enhancers (beta-carbolines, opioid peptides, salt) that overrule this system Please check out the losing overweight forum, where you can ask more detailed questions about this issue quote: i ask that because oil is so easy to overeat on because 1) it has twice as much calories than carbs/proteins your body 'counts' calories; it doesn't just measure the weight of the consumed food your body perfectly recognizes the molecules that enter your blood stream, and it is the hormonal response to this influx that co-regulates your appetite quote: 2) has no fiber, so its not very filling fiber in no way determines your appetite it is just that OVEReating fiber burdens your digestive system, which may keep you from eating enough but that doesnt automatically mean that consuming little fiber makes you overeat; it is not that how filled your digestive system is, is what determines your appetite; your body is far more sophisticated than that quote: 3) i could easily eat many tablespoons of oil in one sitting, which could easily higher my calorie consumption in one sitting, and cause weight gain. you shouldnt just look at one meal, because the negative feedback systems that comprise the weight-regulation system, dont respond within one meal, but in response to the ingesting of that meal (after the meal) consuming many table spoons of oil, will satisfy your need for fat try eating many tablespoons of oil with every meal, and you will notice how your appetite for oil decreases; your body automatically corrects you eventually If losing overweight would be about not consuming calory dense food, Americans would be the slimmest people in the world; in no other country so much low-calory food is consumed, and yet no other people are as fat as the Americans
Wai 05-02-2003 08:47 AM	quote: She wrote: I suspect my acne breakout in the first week is due to the lack of oil I consumed to stabalise the sugar level from the fruits. that is very much possible quote: I think it's a little "too much" fat for me. About an hour after my consumption of fruits + fat, I get nausea and I feel like vomiting. your body may need some time to adapt to consuming more fat if it isn't used to eating much fat, it wount produce the right amount of bile acids, for example, while these bile acids are required to properly digest the fat if not enough bile acids are produced, your body will respond by making you feel nauseous and feel like vomiting quote: my stool is kinda getting soft as well.. that is because your digestive system needs some time to adapt; it had adapted to the intake of many sedatives, and not much fat, so that it now needs to adapt to ingesting no sedatives anymore and consuming more fat quote: Should I spread out my uptake in fruits so I don't need to have so much fat all at once? Even if you had no problem whatsoever with consuming much fat, that is what you should do anyway! quote: I tried the excel spreadsheet and it says I have to have approx. 30g of fat if I had an apple and 2 pears. That's 5-6 tbs... am I doing this right? it is just a guideline, not a rule Just take your time, and your body will adapt to consuming more fat quote: Does the ammount of fat differ between having juices and whole fruits? no quote: I read somewhere about problems with having avocados together with other fruits. ... So should I eat avocados after eating fruits? Because having olive oil can be quite boring sometimes.. yes, avocado (or nuts) after fruits is perfectly alright (not the other way around)