Back to Current forum index
| Back to Main forum index Back to Current forum index |
| Author | Topic: Changing sensitivity to bad foods / protein? |
| Scott 01-10-2003 11:45 AM | When I first started following Wai's diet, I was extremely sensitive to munch foods. The slightest instance of cheating would cause acne. In the last four to six weeks, however, I have noticed a very significant decrease in my sensitivity to cheating. Is it unusual to become progressively less susceptible to acne? Has anyone else noticed the same thing? |
| RRM 01-10-2003 02:12 PM | Hello Scott, I have noticed something similar. But, in my case it is not about a decreased susceptibility to 'dirty' protein or salt / spices (my skin still cannot cope with a single bite of munch food / snip of salt / spices), but to clean protein. Since I'm on the diet (over 7 years), I have always been equally susceptible to 'dirty' protein and salt/spices, as well as to 'clean' protein. I could never eat more than 100 to maximally 125 gram raw fish a day. But since about 3 to 6 weeks, I can eat over 300 gram a day, without any adverse effects! No need to say that I'm very happy with that! Scott, are they specific munch foods that your skin can cope with better now, or all munch foods? including salt/spices? quote:We have heard something similar before, but back then it was hard to make a distinction between the effects of knowing your exact 'culprit foods' and a lower susceptibility. Are you sure that in you it is the latter? Anyway, Congrats! RRM |
| Scott 01-11-2003 02:44 PM | Hi RRM... Congrats to you, too! :-) quote:You're absolutely right... I'm not sure. It's very easy to draw wrong conclusions, as you know. But it does seem like something has changed. Even when I do break out lately, it's only a superficial whitehead or two rather than slow-healing cysts. In the last few weeks, I've had large portions of cooked fish, pork, chicken, flank steak... without any adverse reaction! Earlier in the diet, I could have sworn that 'dirty' protein caused me to break out. I've also recently eaten large portions of pepperoni pizza, lasagna, chinese food, mozzerella cheese, rice, potatoes, carrot cake, and even a big bowl of ice cream... again, no pimples. On the other hand, I continue to stick largely to Wai's diet. I still eat/drink loads of fruit and egg yolk. I continue to largely avoid milk and grains, salts and spices. I minimize the amount of processed, refined, preserved, cooked and frozen foods that I eat. I carefully maintain a stable blood sugar level. And distilled water, gently squirted from a spray bottle, is the only thing that touches my face. So perhaps these are the key adjustments for me. An interesting note--my increased meat intake seems to have actually *helped* my complexion, perhaps by increasing sebum production. Remember when I said I had a pimple that refused to heal? As soon as I started eating more meat, my skin became less dry and it healed immediately. Anyway, I don't really understand what's going on... but at least my skin is clear. For that, I owe you and Wai an enormous debt of gratitude. Thank you, thank you, thank you! |
| RRM 01-12-2003 01:11 PM | quote:That is the key indeed. And if you want to check that, you could, for example, just start adding salt to your food every day, or, instead, you could start eating cooked meat every day. I'm pretty sure you then will get acne again. quote:It did! But, back then, you were fresh off the normal diet, with, I guess, still lots of remainders from that diet in your blood. Now that your blood is basically more clean, your body shows how much 'bad' food it can really cope with. quote:Yes, exactly. A high sebum production is very good for the skin. Not only does it help the healing process, it also makes your skin look healthier. |
| Scott 01-12-2003 02:35 PM | quote:Okay, that makes sense. quote:Apparently my body can cope with quite a lot. I guess that's a good thing. |
| Wai 01-13-2003 12:46 PM | but, be careful dear Scott, because there is quite a risk that the acne may come back; you are exploring your skin's boundaries right now... but, that is how we learn, right? |
| Scott 01-14-2003 11:27 AM | I got a big spot on my chin overnight. You jinxed me, Wai! ![[Razz]](../tongue.gif) |
| star95 01-14-2003 09:16 PM | hello! i am gonna be done with the two week sample diet in a couple of days and i'll admit, i'm kinda scared. i am enjoying my "new" skin and dread incorporating "munch foods" back into my diet. please help! i need advice, recipes, and someone to share their encouraging story of going back to "normal" eating. what have i learned? that sugar may be my biggest enemay. that i can lose weight even when consuming lots of fat (unsaturated fat from olive oil, avocados, and brazil/walnuts). i never did eat any raw fish(too hard to find in montana) or raw egg yolk (i'm a big chicken) but i will attempt it this week. so, can anyone offer anything? i will GREATLY appreciate it. |
| Wai 01-15-2003 03:16 PM | quote:you're scared because you don't want your acne back? then you should operate very carefully. You can start with eating only one munch item in every 3 days. And if you then, after a few weeks, still don't get any new zits, you can increase that to 2 munch foods every 3 days, up to 1 munch food a day eventually. Is your skin totally clear already? quote:the book contains lots of recipes quote:you can only go back to "normal" eating (after puberty) if your acne is only puberty related. But, in the meantime, you can only go back to some extend to 'normal eating'; to the extend that your skin can cope with it, and you need to learn HOW MUCH bad food your skin can cope with. First your skin needs to be totally clear. THEN you can start eating one munch food in every few days, and if that is okay with your skin, you can gradually increase frequency or the portions. |
| lyn 01-17-2003 06:13 PM | Star95, One of my favorite recipes (after you take Wai's advice) is a thinly sliced up banana in a bowl with heavy cream and a teaspoon or so of peanut butter.I was surprised at how DElICIOUS it is! Very fulfilling! (like Wai says in her book)Also with my avacado salad i eat baked unsalted chips that i get at a healthfood store....they are extremely low in protein...like 2 grams for every 17 chips. They don't taste too bad considering they have no salt... After being on this diet your taste buds seem to work better because of the absence of salt so you can put up with more "bland" foods....Keep up the good work!! ![[Cool]](../cool.gif) |
| Cheryl2002 04-03-2003 12:48 PM | Me and my friend went on the diet together and it's been 6 mths so far.....we have been seeing pretty good results. We also identify that milk and cheese products are the worst for us. BUT, as time goes by, she and I seem to have exact opposite reaction to bad protein. After being 'good' and having clear skin, we would try to experiment with the same bad protein stuff like cheese or ice-cream or fried chicken wings. Initially we would break out equally bad.....but now, her skin will react milder, say one or 2 pimples, while for me, I will get 4 or 5 painful zits! It's like she's getting less sensitive to bad protein while for me, I have to be very strcit otherwise I will get bad zits! Unfair.... Anyone has similar experiences? I wnat to know.....do most of you get more tolerant of bad protein or less? |
| Wai 04-03-2003 12:49 PM | for me, i remain about equally sensitive, while RRM is recently (since a few months) becoming less sensitive(initially only to good protein, but now to bad protein as well), while, in the beginning, this sensitivity had increased so, i guess it is very much personal, and depending on age (hormones) |