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AuthorTopic: whats worse? rice, wheat, potato spiking blood glucose
rick
10-18-2002
12:38 PM
Is rice-based food less bad than wheat-based food for spiking blood glucose? Is there something specific about the gluten (found in wheat, oats, etc.) that is bad and spikes the blood glucose more. I was just wondering if I try to eat spaghetti I should eat rice noodles rather than wheat noodles. Are potatoes inherently more blood spiking than other carbs? I think that since I went off potato chips my face has improved more, but corn chips seem to be not too bad for me. I also eat rice almost everday and there's no change from when I didn't eat rice. Anyone else have experiences related?
Wai
10-20-2002
12:44 PM
Not many acne patients are susceptible to spiking blood sugar levels. How do you know that you are?

Raw natural foods (which contain hardly any starch) can only spike the blood glucose level if too little fat is consumed.
When munch foods are consumed, there are 2 issues regarding spiking blood sugar levels:
- starch contents
- beta-carboline and opioid peptide contents

Rice (72.2%) contains more starch than wheat (58.2%). But wheat contains (11.7%) more protein than rice (7.2%), and thus more beta-carbolines, plus wheat contains opioid peptides.
I suspect that the extra appetite stimulating effect of wheat is of greater influence than the extra starch contents of rice.

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Is there something specific about the gluten
Yes, they contain opioid peptides, which over-stimulate your appetite, making it more likely that your blood sugar level gets spiked too much.

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Are potatoes inherently more blood spiking than other carbs?
Munch foods should only be compared to other munch foods.
Potatoes are far less harmful than rice and wheat, since containing FAR less starch (only 14.1%) and protein (only 2.0%)

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I think that since I went off potato chips my face has improved more, but corn chips seem to be not too bad for me.
When you fry foods, that is a whole different ballgame, since then much motre heat is involved, which is very bad.
I suspect that there is less intense heating involved in frying the corn chips?
Or maybe less salt?
Corn does not contain much protein (8.5%). (starch: 61.5%)

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I also eat rice almost everday and there's no change from when I didn't eat rice. Anyone else have experiences related?
I'm sure there will be a difference if you don't eat the rice and then not replace it with other munch foods.
rick
10-20-2002
02:44 PM
Wai,
thanks much for your response. It was quite helpful....

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Raw natural foods (which contain hardly any starch) can only spike the blood glucose level if too little fat is consumed
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Wait, I thought it was the sugars in raw food onyour diet that spiked blood-glucose, and that's what we are consuming sufficient fat to keep from spiking.

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When munch foods are consumed, there are 2 issues regarding spiking blood sugar levels:
- starch contents

Starch....which can be determined how much in a munch food like rice by looking at carb content on packaging???

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Potatoes are far less harmful than rice and wheat, since containing FAR less starch (only 14.1%) and protein (only 2.0%)
Some nutritionists like Harvard Nutrition director Dr. Willet in his new book preach dangers of high starch and low nutrition of potatoes. Are you telling me that rice is worse? What about brown rice--as bad as white?

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I'm sure there will be a difference if you don't eat the rice and then not replace it with other munch foods.
Would cooked mixed vegetables be better than rice? Why would rice be so bad--you said above "Not many acne patients are susceptible to spiking blood sugar levels" and 1/4 cup uncooked rice only has 3 grams protein. Seems like not too bad a food.
Wai
10-21-2002
01:05 PM
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Rick wrote:
Wait, I thought it was the sugars in raw food onyour diet that spiked blood-glucose, and that's what we are consuming sufficient fat to keep from spiking.

Correct; I was just differentiating between raw and non-raw foods...
So, I could/should have written:
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The sugars from raw natural foods (which contain hardly any starch) can only spike the blood glucose level if too little fat is consumed
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Rick wrote:
Starch....which can be determined how much in a munch food like rice by looking at carb content on packaging???

No. Starch is a specific carb. A food can contain lots of carbs while not containing any starch, but it might also be that 75% of the carbs in a certain food is starch.
So, you cannot know its starch contents by looking at the label, unless it is specifically written how much starch it contains.

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Some nutritionists like Harvard Nutrition director Dr. Willet in his new book preach dangers of high starch and low nutrition of potatoes. Are you telling me that rice is worse?
Rice (72.2%) always contains far more starch than potatoes (14.1%).
Regarding acne, rice is absolutely worse (for containing more protein, and also much more starch).

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What about brown rice--as bad as white?
Yes.

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Would cooked mixed vegetables be better than rice?
Yes.

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Why would rice be so bad--you said above "Not many acne patients are susceptible to spiking blood sugar levels" and 1/4 cup uncooked rice only has 3 grams protein. Seems like not too bad a food.
Vegetables and potatoes contain less protein.
Wheat products (pasta, pizza, bread) contain more protein.