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AuthorTopic: one group of munch foods more harmful than other?
hollywood
10-03-2002
01:44 AM
Wai. Maybe its just my imagination but i think the type of foods i choose as my munch foods make a difference in whether i am able to maintain clear skin. it SEEMS that when i choose bread, or pasta (wheat products in general) i dont have much luck staying clear. however, when i choose to have other things such as rice, potatoes, meat (bacon), ice cream (or high fat dairy), cooked vegetables, etc.. i rarely see any negative effect. i havent tested by going on the strict sample diet and trying out 1 food per week to see but i just have this feeling. if there any evidence that people react more negatively to wheat products as munch foods than when making other selections? i feel pretty strongly about this and i even went as far as buying rice bread and rice cakes as a substitute for regular white bread. suprisingly they taste almost identical. but anyway, do you think its my imagination or could it have validity?
Wai
10-03-2002
08:31 AM
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i think the type of foods i choose as my munch foods make a difference in whether i am able to maintain clear skin.
That is very logical, since different munch foods can be harmful (regarding acne) to your skin for different reasons.
And different people are differently susceptible to different causes of acne; one is more susceptible to fluctuating blood sugar levels, while others are more susceptible to the permeability increasing influence of lactose and substance P (dairy products), or to the influence of salt, or that of 'dirty' protein, for example.

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it SEEMS that when i choose bread, or pasta (wheat products in general) i dont have much luck staying clear. however, when i choose to have other things such as rice, potatoes, meat (bacon), ice cream (or high fat dairy), cooked vegetables, etc.. i rarely see any negative effect.
You may have more problems digesting wheat gluten than other acne patients, and you may be less susceptible to other factors (salt, protein, sugar etc.)
So, that is very well possible.

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if there any evidence that people react more negatively to wheat products as munch foods than when making other selections? ...could it have validity?
Not evidence, but to me, it is very logical that some will be more susceptible to wheat gluten than others. (it HAS been proven to be the case in general, but not specifically regarding acne)
hollywood
10-03-2002
01:19 PM
ok so now what do i do? im assuming to stay on the diet but increase dirty protein amounts, however, eliminate all wheat-glutenous munch foods. would this be correct? or do you think the increase in dirty protein would be something i dont want? this is getting a little confusing now.. can you make it simple for me to understand what i am to do in this case? thank wai
Wai
10-03-2002
04:52 PM
quote:
ok so now what do i do? im assuming to stay on the diet but increase dirty protein amounts, however, eliminate all wheat-glutenous munch foods. would this be correct?
Yes. That way you get too know how much 'dirty' protein from non-wheat sources your skin can cope with without getting acne again.
But if you don't like risking new acne by experimenting, you can, of course, also simply maintain your current level of 'dirty' protein intake.

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or do you think the increase in dirty protein would be something i dont want?
Maybe the current level is already the level your skin can maximally cope with. the only way to find out, is by experimentation, which may cause new acne...
So, it is really up to you.

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this is getting a little confusing now.. can you make it simple for me to understand what i am to do in this case?
Now that you think you have identified the main culprit regarding your acne, you can start experimenting to what extend the other possible causes ('dirty' protein, dairy products, salt and spices) need to be eliminated from your diet.
So, you can start experimenting, but only change the intake of one of these groups at the time (which needs to be the same during one period of experimentation).
For example:
You eliminate all wheat products from your diet, and only increase the intake of cooked animal foods.
OR: you eliminate all wheat products from your diet and increase the intake of salt / spices.
Do you understand?
hollywood
10-05-2002
08:17 AM
like i said this could all be my imagination and i think the best thing for me to do to be 100% sure about this is to simply go back on the sample diet and re-do the experimentation all over again. i mean, i think im sure about this but i need to be 100% sure so im not avoiding certain foods for no reason. do you agree with this?
Wai
10-05-2002
02:02 PM
YEP!!!