Acne Q & A Archive: Orange juice, oil, and sugar..

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ninesky 02-23-2003 08:05 PM	Orange juice, oil, and sugar: I've seen you mention this numerous times and I'm not sure what to think of it. Is it part of the sample diet? I'm pretty sure that plain white sugar wouldn't go with the "raw" concept. And what kind of oil? Most people who advise raw foods only recommend extra virgin olive oil.. and I can't imagine drinking that with orange juice. And I assume fresh squeezed orange juice.. which would be about 32 oranges a day for the 4.5 liters. It just doesn't make much sense to me, and I'd appreciate some detail in to it, Thanks.
bk 02-23-2003 08:40 PM	Hi, I will try to help you a bit, but please keep in mind that Wai is probably a more reliable source of information. quote: Orange juice, oil, and sugar: I've seen you mention this numerous times and I'm not sure what to think of it. Is it part of the sample diet? Yes. quote: I'm pretty sure that plain white sugar wouldn't go with the "raw" concept. The ``raw'' concept, at least to me, is about minimising the intake of harmful substances. As far as I know --- and presumably why Wai recommends --- white sugar is not considered harmful. (It's just fructose!) quote: And what kind of oil? Most people who advise raw foods only recommend extra virgin olive oil.. Yes, that's right. quote: and I can't imagine drinking that with orange juice. Well, give it a try. You might be surprised. You don't need to add tons. You can find brands of EVOO that hardly have any flavour. quote: And I assume fresh squeezed orange juice.. Yes. Almost all store-bought juice has been pasturized. (But there was a thread recently about some brands that had not.) quote: which would be about 32 oranges a day for the 4.5 liters. That could be right... it depends on the oranges. I need ~15 oranges per litre at the moment. But, the actual amount is entirely dictated by you. The 4.5 litres you quoted is probably from the thread w/Frugivore, right? If that is the case, keep in mind that was what was recommended for him based on his height and weight (he's 6'6" and 240lbs, if I recall correctly). quote: It just doesn't make much sense to me, and I'd appreciate some detail in to it What part doesn't make sense? One of the most important things for people on the sample diet is to make sure that they eat enough. Since fruit is not cheap in many areas, eating large amounts of the less-expensive fruits is usually easiest. In North America (and Europe, I suppose) that means bananas and oranges, among others. What you can do to see some info about the nutrient contents of some foods is to use the nutrient calculator. Hope that helps, Brian
ninesky 02-24-2003 06:18 PM	Thanks. I just wanted more detail.. the whole concept seemed kind of odd.. but it's quite a bit more clear now. It's just that many people who advise raw foods, advise against white sugar.. I thought maybe Wai was refering to raw palm sugar.
ninesky 02-25-2003 03:32 PM	Actually white sugar is sucrose.. and it's refined.. heated.. and most likely a different substance than the content of what you'd get from eating sugar cane. Fructose is fruit sugar and according to what I've learned, there's a big difference between the sugar you get from eating a whole fruit and that of pure white sugar(or high fructose corn syrup). Many people seem to think that pure white sugar is either not a complete food(it doesn't come with enzymes to help digest it.. though I'm not sure if they're needed for sugar) or that it contains toxic substances because it's heated.. and therefore they stick to raw honey and raw maple syrup(made by freezing maple sap). I've trusted Wai's opinion so far from what I've read, and I'd just like to be set straight as far as all of this goes(by Wai). Thanks.
bk 02-26-2003 02:38 PM	quote: Actually white sugar is sucrose.. I am sorry, I mistyped. I will let Wai answer your question.
Wai 02-27-2003 01:09 PM	Hello Dalai Gamma! quote: Fructose is fruit sugar and according to what I've learned, there's a big difference between the sugar you get from eating a whole fruit and that of pure white sugar white sugar is sucrose (= fructose + glucose), which is also abundantly naturally present in fruits quote: Many people seem to think that pure white sugar is either not a complete food it is not a complete food indeed. But, consuming lots of fruits and some animal food, you will ingest all required nutrients anyway sugar and cold pressed oilve oil are included in the diet because they can help you to maintain this diet, because they more effectively supply you with the energy that you need. Those with a very high energy use, may need it quote: 32 oranges a day for the 4.5 liters. It just doesn't make much sense to me Consuming only the juice from the fruit, you only ingest the easy to digest part of the fruit, thus making it MUCH easier to ingest enough energy / nutrients Also, you don't need enzymes from the food to aid digestion. The enzymes from food (which are proteins) are actually decomposed by the digestive enzymes...