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| Author | Topic: Berries |
| Lewis 02-20-2003 12:02 PM | Do you know anything about dried Goji Berries, which are claimed to be very healthy? (You can find out about them from this page: http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order/index.cgi?id=829898580570&d=single&item_id= NFL-572&m=home Is this a fruit worth getting????? Thanks in advance -- Lewis |
| Wai 02-20-2003 01:10 PM | these are berries not meant for human consumption, but for birds. Most berries actually are not meant for human consumption, for containing high purine levels, alkaloids, anti-nutrients such as lignins and specific pentosanes and hexosanes (polysaccharides), that are not properly decomposed by the human digestive tract people have a tendency of thinking that we can eat anything, while in fact, in nature, all foods are only 'designed' / fit for a limited group of specific animals |
| Sanna 02-21-2003 06:32 AM | are all berries meant for birds only? what about strawberries, raspberries and blueberries? do they contain a lot of these substances you mentioned? and are strawberries sprayed with a lot of pesticides? (cos you can't really peel them...) are all fruits meant for human consumption? are there some fruits that are more meant for other animals? |
| Wai 02-21-2003 08:42 AM | quote:not all, but most quote:strawberries and raspberries can perfectly be consumed by humans, blueberries to a lesser extend quote:yes, they are sprayed too, though they are not sprayed with the heavy pesticides that are allowed on bananas, for example (because the banana peel is romved anyway) quote:no, not all fruits can be consumed raw, such as Akee, Chayote, Okra and Tamarind |
| engesongwok 03-16-2003 05:22 PM | What will happen to you if you eat these fruits raw? I have also noticed that squash, pumpkin and eggplant make me feel sick if I eat them raw. I tried them all at least once...and not again. I think that some raw-foodists aren't fully informed about what is good food and what isn't. I only tried eating these things because of the recipes found on the 'living foods' website. Are you familiar with cloud berries at all? (Rubus chamaemorus) http://www.grzyby.pl/rosliny/gatunki/Rubus_chamaemorus.htm Are these also "for the birds"? Its a berry that I grew up with in alaska. I like the taste, but I hate the seeds, which are very hard. |
| engesongwok 03-16-2003 05:24 PM | For Wai, Did you say somewhere in your website that white fruit or foods are usually for human consumption? If not, what features are associated with foods which are the most ideal for humans? |
| Wai 03-19-2003 03:02 PM | quote:possible short term effects: cramps, diarrhea, feeling sick long term effects: dislike of fruit, colon malfunctioning, malnutrition (due to impaired digestion), and even natural toxins impairing functioning of different organs quote:yes, these should never be eaten raw quote:they are family of boysenberries, blackberries and raspberries (the latter 2 can perfectly be consumed raw) it looks like a big raspberry, right? quote:all berries are actually for birds, but some can also be eaten by humans (and other animals) the general guideline is that if the taste is good (consuming it raw), the fruit is generally okay i believe that cloudberries are not as perfect as blackberries or raspberries, but can be eaten raw quite well quote:ehrr, no quote:fruits that are meant for humans, generally have a distinct smell / odour and are often 'ugly' on the outside, while berries that are meant for birds specifically, are generally odourless and have a bright (red) colour, because birds spot them by their colour, while humans don't have this overview from the air, and probably track(ed) down their fruits by their smell PS, this IS a generalisation |
| engesongwok 03-24-2003 06:30 PM | Durian is an example of an ideal fruit? Distinct smell, high calories, easy to chew, delicious, and 'ugly' on the outside. Cherimoyas have a distinct smell, easy to open, taste delicious, very nutritious, 'ugly' on the outside. Or can be depending on stage of ripeness. Thank you for the input. |
| Wai 03-27-2003 11:20 AM | yes, Durian is an ideal fruit indeed ![[Smile]](../smile.gif) |
| jay 04-01-2003 07:15 AM | Fruit that evolved to be eaten by birds and fruit bats is usually a colour that contrasts with the background foliage, often red but also black, purple or white too. The misletoe plant can only reproduce if its seed is stuck to the bark of a tree and only birds do this when they wipe the sticky seeds off their beaks so misletoe berries are pretty toxic to mammals. Some of the most toxic berries to humans are those that are usually eaten by fruit bats even though bats are mammals, they can handle the toxins OK. Fruits usually eaten by large mammals are mostly fairly large and blend in to foliage, presumably to make it more difficult for birds to see them.. Pears fit this description pretty well. |
| Ganesh 06-03-2003 09:22 PM | What about cranberries? |
| Wai 06-06-2003 09:55 AM | basically they are meant for birds but there are lots of different cranberries (moorberries, red-bilberries, mountain cranberries etc) the good thing is that you can easily detect toxins; they taste bitter so, the better a raw, non processed, food tastes, the smaller the chance that it contains some sort of (mild) toxin This also applies to the state of ripening; when cranberries are not totally ripe, they are bitter, and poisonous that is why cranberries are generally used to make jelly of, but even when unripe cranberries are used for making jelly (eg highbush cranberries), they can still make you sick (not all toxins are destroyed by heat) and... cranberries always contain enzyminhibitors, so they are not exactly perfect food for us PS you can safely taste a poisonous berry, as long as you dont eat it (eating one poisonous berry may already cause cramps and diarrhea) |
| Ganesh 06-06-2003 01:30 PM | Thanks, Wai. I guess I'm thinking more of ready-pressed cranberry juice, which is sweet and tastes lovely. It's generally touted as a good source of selenium, and therefore good for certain skin problems, etc. I suspect these claims are probably exaggerated, but it tastes good, anyway. |
| Wai 06-06-2003 01:51 PM | for those of you on the sample diet: cranberry juice is never raw, and excluded from the 100% strict acne sample diet (but its great for Ganesh! ) |
| Ganesh 06-06-2003 02:04 PM | |