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pete59 12-12-2002 05:22 PM	Hi, I am new to this idea. I Is Vegeteble Juice okay in this diet? if not what is the reason. Thanks, Parviz
Wai 12-13-2002 06:23 AM	Hi Parviz, welcome to this board. Vegetable juice is not okay on the acne sample diet, for 2 reasons: - Vegetables (cucumber, tomatoes and avocado are not vegetables but (vegetable-) fruits) contain all kind of enzyminhibitors to prevent being consumed by animals such as humans. Animals that are specialized in eating plants, grasses and leaves, have digestive systems that are adapted to eating these plant foods. (ie: pigeons have a gouter, cows have 4 stomachs) Humans do not have such a specialized digestive system, since we are naturally omnivores. This means that we have no system to dis-arm those enzyminihitors. That is why humans generally only eat COOKED vegetables and grains; cooking destroys these enzyminhibitors. what is bad about these enzyminhibitors? They inhibit your digestion, and bind to valuable nutrients. In acne, optimum digestion is a key factor. - with this diet, you likely lose weight without wanting so, if you don't focus on eating enough constantly, and on eating only foods that are very easy to digest, and high-caloric. Vegetables are neither easy to digest, nor high caloric. Consuming raw vegetables in this diet, you wount be able to maintain your natural weight, and may lack nutrients (due to the enzyminhibitors).
pete59 12-13-2002 10:47 PM	Hi Wai, The reason I am trying this diet is because I wanted to get rid off my constipation. I think that is helping me so far. I still cant understand the diet 100%. However, it has been easy to follow it. I love fruits and fish and nuts so it is easy for me to follow the diet. I need to understand more about veggie stuff. I am still consuming a salad each day ( cucumber, avocado and lettuce) and have a juice ( carrots + cucumber + celery and kale). But somedays dont feel having salad because I think fuits & nuts and animal protien has satisified all nutrients that I need. thanks
pete59 12-14-2002 11:38 AM	quote: Originally posted by Wai: Hi Parviz, welcome to this board. Vegetable juice is not okay on the acne sample diet, for 2 reasons: - Vegetables (cucumber, tomatoes and avocado are not vegetables but (vegetable-) fruits) contain all kind of enzyminhibitors to prevent being consumed by animals such as humans. Animals that are specialized in eating plants, grasses and leaves, have digestive systems that are adapted to eating these plant foods. (ie: pigeons have a gouter, cows have 4 stomachs) Humans do not have such a specialized digestive system, since we are naturally omnivores. This means that we have no system to dis-arm those enzyminihitors. That is why humans generally only eat COOKED vegetables and grains; cooking destroys these enzyminhibitors. what is bad about these enzyminhibitors? They inhibit your digestion, and bind to valuable nutrients. In acne, optimum digestion is a key factor. - with this diet, you likely lose weight without wanting so, if you don't focus on eating enough constantly, and on eating only foods that are very easy to digest, and high-caloric. Vegetables are neither easy to digest, nor high caloric. Consuming raw vegetables in this diet, you wount be able to maintain your natural weight, and may lack nutrients (due to the enzyminhibitors). Do green leafy vegetables considered enzyme inhibitors? Is there a document that you can refer me to so I can study it? I was doing a little research and I found out that Nuts can be eenzyme inhibitors. I.e Dr. Edward howell book mentions it. Then, Are Brazil Nuts enzyme inhibitors? I need more info. Thanks, Peter
RRM 12-16-2002 01:57 PM	quote: Do green leafy vegetables considered enzyme inhibitors? Yes, they contain enzyminhibitors too. quote: Is there a document that you can refer me to so I can study it? there is some info here: http://www.13.waisays.com/plants.htm quote: I was doing a little research and I found out that Nuts can be eenzyme inhibitors. Yes, nuts like walnuts and almonds can contain quite some enzyminhibitors too. You can taste them by the bitterness (especially tanins are bitter too). Brazil nuts and Macadamia nuts contain hardly any. RRM
mengyao 01-14-2003 05:36 PM	okay, so vegetables contain nitrate and many other substances to prevent humans from consuming them. in the case that vegetables dont cause someone's acne (after going on teh sample diet and then introducing veggies), i believe they would be okay. thats because there are thousands of micronutrients that are still not discovered, and those micronutrients can only be found in fresh raw foods.(duh on that). but my point is, vegetables have lots of micronutrients. they are more nutritionally dense than fruits! fruits contain micronutrients, but vegetables also contain some micronutrients that fruits may not contain. who knows, maybe the micronutrients only found in some veggies are necessary for health reason?? but then again, fruits are much better suited for human consumption.
Wai 01-15-2003 11:58 AM	quote: okay, so vegetables contain nitrate and many other substances to prevent humans from consuming them. regarding the enzyminhibitors etc. yes, but not the nitrate. The nitrate and nitrite is from the use of fertilizers. quote: in the case that vegetables dont cause someone's acne (after going on teh sample diet and then introducing veggies), i believe they would be okay. That's your belief, but the human digestive tract is not specialized in properly digesting vegetables and disarming the harmful substances they contain. quote: because there are thousands of micronutrients that are still not discovered ... vegetables have lots of micronutrients. Why do you think that these undicovered nutrients would not be contained in the fruits / nuts / animal foods? Why would they exclusively be contained in vegetables, while this is not true for any of the already discovered nutrients? quote: they are more nutritionally dense than fruits! says who? says what analysis? quote: vegetables also contain some micronutrients that fruits may not contain. may? why isn't that the case for any nutrient so far? And, suppose it is true, how come that RRM exclusively feeds himself on fruits and animal food for more than 7 years, and is extremely healthy? (he is never ever sick / ill; never has a cold or something) He obviously ingests all nuttrients that he needs, right? quote: maybe the micronutrients only found in some veggies are necessary for health reason?? RRM never eats ANY...