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| Scott 11-22-2002 09:43 AM | Hi RRM, I don't think I've been consuming enough energy. I've lost a lot of weight, despite my efforts and all the warnings made by you and Wai. I have also been feeling pretty sluggish recently. Even after two months, I'm still having a hard time working the logistics of the diet into my lifestyle. ![[Smile]](../smile.gif) Part of the problem is I have a few questions that I haven't bothered to ask:1) I would like to drink more, but I currently only drink one liter of orange juice a day. I notice that O.J. tastes good only for forty-five minutes or so after squeezing. Even when I refrigerate, the taste seems to drastically change in a short period of time. And it's too time-consuming to make fresh orange juice multiple times during a day. Have you noticed the taste issue, RRM? Any suggestions? 2) Another thing I've noticed: the olive oil mixes well with fresh-squeezed juice. But when I try to mix oil into juice that has been sitting for a while (even refrigerated) it gets a bit funky. It sort of beads up and develops a dominant taste. 3) When I first started drinking O.J. (with 3 egg yolks and 1 tbsp. olive oil), I would feel energetic, even though Wai said that egg yolk could initially make you feel tired. Lately, for the last three weeks or so, I do get exhausted after the drink. I feel sometimes like I've been hit by a truck and like I need to take a nap. Again, like the nausea mentioned in another thread, perhaps this has something to do with consuming too much at a time, overwhelming my system? 4) For the last week or two I've also been getting sugar spikes after the drinks... that peculiar soreness in the shoulders. I increased my olive oil consumption from 1 to 2 tbsps... one mixed with the drink, one taken like a shot afterwards. For the last couple of days, I've taken 3 tbsps of oil with the liter. I can't tell yet if it helps. What do you think is going on? I can't tell if I'm not consuming enough fat after sugars or if I might be pre-diabetic or...? Also, Wai says to drink as much oil as we can stand with the juice. How much would be too much? 5)Finally, even though I probably haven't been consuming enough energy, I don't have a huge appetite. I think I should be eating more, according to what you say, but I just don't have the desire. Should I be force-feeding myself? I appreciate your help, as always. |
| bk 11-22-2002 04:16 PM | quote:What kind of oranges do you use? Here in Canada, all of the naval oranges I've tried lately taste awful, even with sugar. And, with naval oranges the juice doesn't seem to hold its taste for as long (in the neighbourhood of 2-6 hours, for my tastes). But, right now valencia oranges seem to be very tasty, and the juice seems to last longer (at least 20+ hours). Perhaps I'm off base for your concerns, though. |
| Scott 11-22-2002 05:44 PM | Hi Brian, I don't think you're off base at all. I appreciate your input actually. I would love to find some oranges that hold the taste. I've used different kinds, from different places: juice oranges, navel oranges... from California, Florida, Valencia... They all seem to get bitter within an hour. I haven't tried adding any sugar, though.... |
| RRM 11-25-2002 02:09 PM | quote:I haven't noticed this. Maybe it is because I mix the juice with oil and sugar immediately, and then place it in the refridgerator at night. I drink it the next day, during work. Since my body needs the energy, I gladly drink it, and my body absorbs it thankfully, except when the juice is from poorly ripened oranges. quote:So, why don't you always mix the oil with the juice immediately after pressing? quote:Absolutely. It causes too much a high, followed by a powerful dip, making you feel exhausted, and / or depressed. Try zipping from the juice all the time instead of drinking much at once. quote:It is simple, you should drink less at once, and drink much more often. And you should add much oil indeed. quote:No, you are causing too high elevations of the blood sugar level, by drinking much juice at once. I constantly drink juice all the time, one glass at the time. quote:even drinking pure oil is not too much if your stomach can cope with it well. Your body will tell you how much it can cope with maximally. quote:The same answer here: you should drink much more often, but smaller amounts at once. If you need 'force' to get used to drink more often, yes, please do. Fruits do not contain appetite enhancers, so you likely eat too little, since we have grown up with the custom of only eating a few meals a day. I think that originally, in nature, we must have been eating all day, logically in small amounts. (consumed at the spot) |
| Scott 11-25-2002 09:54 PM | quote:I've done the same thing! It was too disgusting to drink. You don't find it bitter? Or you're just accustomed to it? Hmmm.... quote:I tried it this way, too. quote:Okay, I think you're right. I'll give it a try. What might be a good amount of oil per liter? Three tablespoons, four? Part of the reason I drink the juice in one sitting (and consume too little) is because of how quickly the flavor turns. If I can figure out the flavor problem, the other issues will resolve themselves. Anyway, thanks a lot, RRM. |
| RRM 11-27-2002 01:06 PM | quote:Maybe i've accustomed to it, because i still like the taste. I actually enjoy my OJ this way; it's my main food. quote:I add 50 gram oil to a 1.5 liter bottle of OJ. ehrr... 1 tablespoon is 13.5 gram, so, yes, 3 tbsp of oil with every liter is enough. quote:Your health is so important that you need to find a solution anyway, right? quote:If I drink 1 liter in one sitting, I don't like the taste anyway, because my body says that it is too much. It doesn't matter what foods you overeat on, you will dislike it. So, why don't you just atrt with zipping from the OJ, and then see how the flavor turns out to be for you after having done so for a few days? The essence, i think, is that consuming that much OJ in one sitting is not okay, and that you better keep on zipping from the OJ all day, alternated with eating other fruits. The OJ is also a perfect quick fix for when your blood sugar is going down. (which easily happens within a while after having eaten whole fruits, because they fill you up, so that you wount take another bite. Having a zip of OJ instead is much easier) RRM |
| Scott 11-29-2002 09:11 AM | Thanks a lot, RRM. I've tried slower drinking habits over the last few days... and it does seem to be working a bit better. As for the taste, I'll just try to find fresher oranges and mask the bitterness with heaping spoonfuls of sugar. ![[Razz]](../tongue.gif) |
| Scott 11-29-2002 10:48 PM | I FIGURED IT OUT! RRM, the reason my juice gets bitter so quickly and yours stays fresh overnight is due to our different methods of juicing. I use a centrifugal juicer, which oxidates the juice, causing it to turn rather quickly. You press by hand, correct? This is a gentler method which causes less oxidation and allows the juice to stay fresher for much longer. This is definitely a factor for people to consider when selecting juicer designs. |
| RRM 12-01-2002 09:41 AM | Aaaah, yes that seems a logic explanation to me indeed... (yes, I press them by hand) Nicely found ![[Big Grin]](../biggrin.gif) |